LOST Notes - Page 9

Mugen910 · 04-21-2009, 01:53 PM

April 22nd, 2009 : 9:00-10:02
Special: "LOST: The Story of the Oceanic 6"
"ABC once again invites new and avid "Lost" viewers to take another look at one of the most talked about and critically acclaimed shows. "Lost: The Story of the Oceanic 6" will explore the series in a way that will bring new viewers up to date -- but which current viewers will also find illuminating -- in discovering what happened to the Oceanic 6 and the remaining island survivors during the three years after Ben moved the island."
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Just wanted to share this... Remember the ring of ash that surrounded Jacob's cabin?
According to commentary for "The Man Behind the Curtain" (season 3 episode) on the Season 3 DVD by the producers, the circle of ash is "a bit of a kind of protection or magic or kind of containment. Ben is afraid to touch it. In a certain way, part of the idea here is that Ben has some powers over Jacob, and Jacob has some powers over Ben, and there is a bit of a stasis."

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Found this on Wikipedia and wanted to send it out as it looks like The Frozen Wheel:

The Dharmacakra or Dhammacakka, "Wheel of Dharma" is a symbol representing dharma, the Buddha's teaching of the path to enlightenment. It is also sometimes translated as wheel of doctrine or wheel of law.

History: The Dharmacakra symbol is represented as a chariot wheel with eight or more spokes. It is one of the oldest known Buddhist symbols found in Indian art, appearing with the first surviving post-Harappan Indian iconography in the time of the Buddhist king Asoka. The Dharmacakra has been used by all Buddhist nations as a symbol ever since. In its simplest form, the Dharmacakra is recognized globally as a symbol for Buddhism.

Symbolism
A simplified version of the Dharmacakra

The eight spokes represent the Noble Eightfold Path of Buddhism. Other symbolism in the eight-spoked Dharmacakra in Buddhism:

* Its overall shape is that of a circle, representing the perfection of the dharma teaching
* The hub stands for discipline, which is the essential core of meditation practice
* The rim, which holds the spokes, refers to mindfulness which holds everything together

Skywalker · 04-23-2009, 05:01 PM

Last nights show was a nice little update of the Oceanic Six!!!

I enjoyed the show without flashbacks for a change!!!

Cigargal · 04-23-2009, 06:17 PM

Was there any new content?

kaisersozei · 04-24-2009, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Cigargal

Was there any new content?

Heck no

! All it did was put this past season in somewhat of a chronological order. Most fans had probably already figured everything out that they showed.

Ollie · 04-24-2009, 08:46 AM

Well, there was the apparent confirmation that Widmore was the one that planted the plane/bodies on the bottom of the ocean. At least that's what the narrator said.

Mugen910 · 04-24-2009, 08:47 AM

I think we also assumed that from the last episode I believe.

Mugen910 · 04-29-2009, 07:39 AM

Anyone know who the girl with the hat is? I talked to her briefly while in the Louvre.

kaisersozei · 04-29-2009, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mugen910

Anyone know who the girl with the hat is? I talked to her briefly while in the Louvre.

Are you fkn kidding me? Holy crap, Bao, that would have been the highlight of my trip--forget about those fancy paintings, brother!

Mugen910 · 04-29-2009, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by kaisersozei

Are you fkn kidding me? Holy crap, Bao, that would have been the highlight of my trip--forget about those fancy paintings, brother!

It was the highlight of our trip in Paris

She was soooo hot!!!!

ucla695 · 04-29-2009, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mugen910

Anyone know who the girl with the hat is? I talked to her briefly while in the Louvre.

That's fricking awesome Bao.

dunng · 04-29-2009, 08:00 AM

Did you interrogate her for info?

Mugen910 · 04-29-2009, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by dunng

Did you interrogate her for info?

haha she insisted that she wasn't the chick from Lost.

Mugen910 · 05-01-2009, 09:19 AM

I just found out Kate and Ben were in Paris for something...Dammit how cool would that have been to meet Ben Linus!!!

kaisersozei · 05-01-2009, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mugen910

I just found out Kate and Ben were in Paris for something...Dammit how cool would that have been to meet Ben Linus!!!

And she's a LIAAARR!

Mugen910 · 05-01-2009, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kaisersozei

And she's a LIAAARR!

haha ...she didn't fool me!...she was nice enough not to ignore me though..

Mugen910 · 05-01-2009, 12:24 PM

Subject: LOST 5, ep 14 "The Variable"

1. Wired Magazine: See attached photo. The copy of the magazine Wired that was on Faraday's couch when Widmore visited him. It was the August 2003 issue - ''The Super-Powers Issue'' - devoted to the plausible science behind far-fetched stuff like invisibility, X-ray vision, and time travel. The headline: ''The Impossible Gets Real!'' The issue discussed two time travel theories favored by most LOST fans, Throne Plates and Kerr Rings. There's also this cover-touted article, ''The End of Cancer As We Know It,'' which can be found on...Page 108. Cancer, of course, has haunted LOST since season 1; and 108 is the sum total of all LOST's numbers (4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42).
In the aforementioned Wired issue, one of eight abilities profiled in an article on plausible super-powers is total recall - rather ironic in light of Faraday's memory issues in the episode. Also featured: teleportation (Jack and co. getting beamed off the plane), regeneration (John Locke's legs; the Island's quick-healing powers), weather manipulation (meteorology was one of Dharma's fields of study); force fields (the sonic fence); underwater breathing, super-strength, and x-ray vision.

2. Smokey: Remember how in ''Dead Is Dead'' Smokey judged Ben for his daughter's death? Maybe that's why Eloise fled the Island - to escape Smokey's judgment for killing her son.

3. Staged Crash: Widmore confirmed that he was the one who created/ planted the fake Oceanic 815 crash. At least now we can be sure of that.

4. Desmond: He survived the gunshot. Perhaps he is the latest in a string of ex-Islanders who can't die back in the real world because their fates remain entangled with the Island (Jack, Michael). The island isn't done with him yet...

5. Scene changes from a previous episode: Yet another example how one scene is different depending on who is remembering it... in one episode, Sayid told Ben and Jack at the marina, ''I don't want any part of this. And if I see you, or him again, it will be extremely unpleasant for all of us.'' But in the Sayid-centric episode ''He's Our You,'' we saw the scene again, but this time Sayid spoke solely to Ben: ''And if I see you again, it'll be extremely unpleasant for us both.'' What do all of these scene discrepancies mean? Obviously, if the scene is re-shot then the writers could just go back to the previous script and have it recited word-for-word... but they don't.

6. Daniel in the Others' camp: He went to the Others' camp making sure he had a gun, and acted in a threatening manner uncharacteristic of him, I think we are led to the following conclusion: Daniel went to the Others' camp knowing that his mother would shoot him. And he did it precisely because he hopes it will get her to work to change what happened. ''You knew...you always knew this was going to happen...and you sent me here anyway...'' What happened doesn't matter because in Faraday's plan, it's what happens next that's most crucial.

7. Dr. Chang: Pressed by Miles to explain his disclosures to Dr. Chang, Faraday replied, ''Just making sure your father does what he's supposed to do. You'll see.'' Faraday's plan seemed to involve making sure some people do what they've always done, and making sure the Variables do something radically different. Or was Faraday manipulating Chang with some reverse psychology?

8. Jack the variable: Did Eloise want the incident to happen so that 815 would crash so that Jack (a surgeon) would be there when Daniel got shot? Daniel said that Jack's "not supposed to be here." Maybe Jack is the true variable? I don't know what the hell I'm talking about.

9. Eloise had to send/ sacrifice Daniel back to the island when Widmore offered him the freighter job. If he never went back and flashed into 1954 eventually, he could not have told the Others to bury the Jughead bomb and the island would have been destroyed meaning Daniel would never have even existed.

10. Faraday's journal was missing a page (see attached). Why would they show us that?

11. Sorry that I don't have anything more concrete... this episode threw me for a loop. I'm trying to wrap my brain around Hawking's/ Widmore's/ Ben's motives and can't seem to think straight!

kaisersozei · 05-01-2009, 01:44 PM

Thanks, Bao!

Okay, I need someone to help me with capturing a screen shot. Here's what I'm trying to get: during the scene in this episode where Daniel & Eloise are having lunch (without the girlfriend...

) there's a camera angle that includes both of them talking to each other across their table. I noticed that it was a really odd shot, because I thought that they were so far apart from each other--there was this big open space between them. Well, at the center of that open space, there was a woman sitting across the restaurant and she was turned at a really awkward angle, looking up at a painting/photo hanging on the wall behind her. This scene went on for a little while, and the woman never moved, even when they cut to a close-up of Daniel & then Eloise, she was still looking up at that painting/photo when the camera returned to that shot. It was really odd, too odd to be accidental.

So I'm interested to see what she was looking at. Anyone help out here, or point me to it? Or am I just over analyzing & looking too hard for weird crap like this?

05-07-2009, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by kaisersozei

Thanks, Bao!

Okay, I need someone to help me with capturing a screen shot. Here's what I'm trying to get: during the scene in this episode where Daniel & Eloise are having lunch (without the girlfriend...

) there's a camera angle that includes both of them talking to each other across their table. I noticed that it was a really odd shot, because I thought that they were so far apart from each other--there was this big open space between them. Well, at the center of that open space, there was a woman sitting across the restaurant and she was turned at a really awkward angle, looking up at a painting/photo hanging on the wall behind her. This scene went on for a little while, and the woman never moved, even when they cut to a close-up of Daniel & then Eloise, she was still looking up at that painting/photo when the camera returned to that shot. It was really odd, too odd to be accidental.

So I'm interested to see what she was looking at. Anyone help out here, or point me to it? Or am I just over analyzing & looking too hard for weird crap like this?

A screen capture can be done by 1) pressing screen capture key on keyboard, then 2) pasting (cntl-V) into any program that is capable of accepting copy/pasted images into a document.

Mugen910 · 05-01-2009, 02:04 PM

might have to go to ABC.com and check that out sir.

Cigargal · 05-07-2009, 11:55 AM

What is Jack thinking? What an idiot!!

Here's what happens if Flight 815 never crashes on the island:

Most obvious, Kate goes to prison-where she becomes the property of a homicidal bull dyke.

Jack buries his father, becomes an achoholic in daddy's footsteps and dies of liver disease.

John Locke ends up back in the wheelchair

Jen becomes a gangster-He and Sun never have a baby because he is sterile-Sun never gets the balls to tell her father off and lives a miserable barren life.

Charlie is alive, but is a heroin addict and soon dies of an overdose.

Claire has her baby in LA and gives him up for adoption.

Rose dies of cancer.

Sawyer never finds love...

Juliet stays on the island and marries Ben(ech!!)

Desmond never finds Penny again...

Hurley... well Hurley is just Hurley

Bad idea, Jack!

04-21-2009, 01:53 PM	#1
Mugen910 I <3 Huy Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Location Location: First Name Posts: 8,387 Trading: (106)	Re: LOST Notes April 22nd, 2009 : 9:00-10:02 Special: "LOST: The Story of the Oceanic 6" "ABC once again invites new and avid "Lost" viewers to take another look at one of the most talked about and critically acclaimed shows. "Lost: The Story of the Oceanic 6" will explore the series in a way that will bring new viewers up to date -- but which current viewers will also find illuminating -- in discovering what happened to the Oceanic 6 and the remaining island survivors during the three years after Ben moved the island." * Just wanted to share this... Remember the ring of ash that surrounded Jacob's cabin? According to commentary for "The Man Behind the Curtain" (season 3 episode) on the Season 3 DVD by the producers, the circle of ash is "a bit of a kind of protection or magic or kind of containment. Ben is afraid to touch it. In a certain way, part of the idea here is that Ben has some powers over Jacob, and Jacob has some powers over Ben, and there is a bit of a stasis." * Found this on Wikipedia and wanted to send it out as it looks like The Frozen Wheel: The Dharmacakra or Dhammacakka, "Wheel of Dharma" is a symbol representing dharma, the Buddha's teaching of the path to enlightenment. It is also sometimes translated as wheel of doctrine or wheel of law. History: The Dharmacakra symbol is represented as a chariot wheel with eight or more spokes. It is one of the oldest known Buddhist symbols found in Indian art, appearing with the first surviving post-Harappan Indian iconography in the time of the Buddhist king Asoka. The Dharmacakra has been used by all Buddhist nations as a symbol ever since. In its simplest form, the Dharmacakra is recognized globally as a symbol for Buddhism. Symbolism A simplified version of the Dharmacakra The eight spokes represent the Noble Eightfold Path of Buddhism. Other symbolism in the eight-spoked Dharmacakra in Buddhism: * Its overall shape is that of a circle, representing the perfection of the dharma teaching * The hub stands for discipline, which is the essential core of meditation practice * The rim, which holds the spokes, refers to mindfulness which holds everything together __________________ I'm not antisocial, I just think people are stupid.

04-23-2009, 05:01 PM	#2
Skywalker BABOTL Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dice Location: Galaxy Far Far Away Posts: 10,168 Trading: (18)	Re: LOST Notes Last nights show was a nice little update of the Oceanic Six!!! I enjoyed the show without flashbacks for a change!!! __________________ Smoke what you like!!!

04-23-2009, 06:17 PM	#3
Cigargal Waiting for SoCal XI Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Northern California Posts: 1,472 Trading: (25)	Re: LOST Notes Was there any new content?

04-24-2009, 08:46 AM	#5
Ollie It's gon RAIN Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Quahog Posts: 78 Trading: (5)	Re: LOST Notes Well, there was the apparent confirmation that Widmore was the one that planted the plane/bodies on the bottom of the ocean. At least that's what the narrator said.

04-24-2009, 08:47 AM	#6
Mugen910 I <3 Huy Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Location Location: First Name Posts: 8,387 Trading: (106)	Re: LOST Notes I think we also assumed that from the last episode I believe. __________________ I'm not antisocial, I just think people are stupid.

04-29-2009, 08:00 AM	#11
dunng MassHole Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Greg Location: MassHole Posts: 4,719 Trading: (59)	Re: LOST Notes Did you interrogate her for info? __________________ MassHole Banter

05-01-2009, 09:19 AM	#13
Mugen910 I <3 Huy Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Location Location: First Name Posts: 8,387 Trading: (106)	Re: LOST Notes I just found out Kate and Ben were in Paris for something...Dammit how cool would that have been to meet Ben Linus!!! __________________ I'm not antisocial, I just think people are stupid.

05-01-2009, 01:44 PM	#17
kaisersozei The Homebrew Hammer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Gerard Location: Midlothian, VA Posts: 3,183 Trading: (40)	Re: LOST Notes Thanks, Bao! Okay, I need someone to help me with capturing a screen shot. Here's what I'm trying to get: during the scene in this episode where Daniel & Eloise are having lunch (without the girlfriend...) there's a camera angle that includes both of them talking to each other across their table. I noticed that it was a really odd shot, because I thought that they were so far apart from each other--there was this big open space between them. Well, at the center of that open space, there was a woman sitting across the restaurant and she was turned at a really awkward angle, looking up at a painting/photo hanging on the wall behind her. This scene went on for a little while, and the woman never moved, even when they cut to a close-up of Daniel & then Eloise, she was still looking up at that painting/photo when the camera returned to that shot. It was really odd, too odd to be accidental. So I'm interested to see what she was looking at. Anyone help out here, or point me to it? Or am I just over analyzing & looking too hard for weird crap like this? __________________

05-01-2009, 02:04 PM	#19
Mugen910 I <3 Huy Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Location Location: First Name Posts: 8,387 Trading: (106)	Re: LOST Notes might have to go to ABC.com and check that out sir. __________________ I'm not antisocial, I just think people are stupid.

05-07-2009, 11:55 AM	#20
Cigargal Waiting for SoCal XI Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Northern California Posts: 1,472 Trading: (25)	Re: LOST Notes What is Jack thinking? What an idiot!! Here's what happens if Flight 815 never crashes on the island: Most obvious, Kate goes to prison-where she becomes the property of a homicidal bull dyke. Jack buries his father, becomes an achoholic in daddy's footsteps and dies of liver disease. John Locke ends up back in the wheelchair Jen becomes a gangster-He and Sun never have a baby because he is sterile-Sun never gets the balls to tell her father off and lives a miserable barren life. Charlie is alive, but is a heroin addict and soon dies of an overdose. Claire has her baby in LA and gives him up for adoption. Rose dies of cancer. Sawyer never finds love... Juliet stays on the island and marries Ben(ech!!) Desmond never finds Penny again... Hurley... well Hurley is just Hurley Bad idea, Jack!