college major, advice? - Page 2

Bill86 · 09-25-2011, 02:31 PM

Mac is right. Logistics does have a good demand. Especially if you go to UT Knox or any other top 3 school for logistics.

bvilchez · 09-25-2011, 02:55 PM

Devan, with a poli sci degree I know of one place for sure you can get into and with your prior military experience it would be a plus...State Department.

Check out their career fields they have. I've worked breifly at many embassies and the Regional Security Officer (RSO) is one who needs a degree in whatever field but play along the border of politics and national security and the embassy. Good pay and benefits.

But again like many others stated, besides making money, think of something you would have fun working at/in. If not then a job is just a job and you'll find yourself switching careers for something else.

AlohaStyle · 09-25-2011, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bvilchez

Devan, with a poli sci degree I know of one place for sure you can get into and with your prior military experience it would be a plus...State Department.

Check out their career fields they have. I've worked breifly at many embassies and the Regional Security Officer (RSO) is one who needs a degree in whatever field but play along the border of politics and national security and the embassy. Good pay and benefits.

But again like many others stated, besides making money, think of something you would have fun working at/in. If not then a job is just a job and you'll find yourself switching careers for something else.

Good info to share... something not everyone knows about.

Along the same lines, I know someone who is a US Gov't Courier with the State Dept... I believe it's the State Dept. If you like to travel, it's a great job. But if you want to stay "home" close to family, stay far away. Basically it's the courier's job to deliver/monitor sensitive packages around the world. Could be shipments too in cargo planes etc. The guy I know got the job a few years ago and started being based in Germany, now lives just north of Bangkok.

Devanmc · 09-25-2011, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AlohaStyle

Good info to share... something not everyone knows about.

Along the same lines, I know someone who is a US Gov't Courier with the State Dept... I believe it's the State Dept. If you like to travel, it's a great job. But if you want to stay "home" close to family, stay far away. Basically it's the courier's job to deliver/monitor sensitive packages around the world. Could be shipments too in cargo planes etc. The guy I know got the job a few years ago and started being based in Germany, now lives just north of Bangkok.

was actually looking into this career for awhile. Its hard to dig up info on.

AlohaStyle · 09-25-2011, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Devanmc

was actually looking into this career for awhile. Its hard to dig up info on.

It's also a pretty competitive job to get as there's not that many positions available, with a good amount of people wanting them.

bvilchez · 09-25-2011, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Devanmc

was actually looking into this career for awhile. Its hard to dig up info on.

State Dept Careers

Though couriers and RSO are COMPLETELY different.

Couriers are literally ALWAYS on the go. RSO has dealings with the Ambassador on a daily basis.

AlohaStyle · 09-25-2011, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Devanmc

was actually looking into this career for awhile. Its hard to dig up info on.

http://www.state.gov/m/ds/career/c8857.htm

GreekGodX · 09-25-2011, 02:59 PM

I would do something that directly translates either into a masters degree or a job right out of college. Accounting, nursing, business administration, or human resources. With all of those it gives you a good foundation to either get a advanced degree or get a job.

SurfnSafari · 09-13-2018, 09:03 AM

My friends son just finished 24 years with the U.S. Navy, 19 with Navel Special Warfare, the last few were in a underground bunker that analyzed intelligence. Guy is like 44, and has the body of a 70 y/o. So how he found time to get a BA in the Navy.

He is working in inventory control/supervision in a big wearhouse. The job is pretty much a no brainier, he says the tougest part is working with millinals, who don't have the same work ethic as his old Navy buddies.

Devanmc · 09-25-2011, 05:04 PM

Its looking more like I am going to switch to Poli Sci.

longknocker · 09-25-2011, 05:08 PM

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Its looking more like I am going to switch to Poli Sci.

No Lifetime Career In The Military? I Would Talk To A College Counselor, Brother, At Some Point.

Devanmc · 09-25-2011, 05:11 PM

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No Lifetime Career In The Military? I Would Talk To A College Counselor, Brother, At Some Point.

i still want a degree, i can join the military with anything.

longknocker · 09-25-2011, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Devanmc

i still want a degree, i can join the military with anything.

True, Definitely Get A Degree. College Guidance Counselors Are Available To You At No Charge.

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kydsid · 07-02-2018, 08:29 AM

I'm late to the party but let me offer my wisdom as a career federal civil servant in 3 different departments, working law enforcement, science and general administration as an employee and supervisor/hiring official.

PoliSci will get you somewhere with a three letter LEO agency, maybe, and possibly with State. Mostly it isn't going to matter for the following.

If a degree is required, it flat out is and an announcement will say what degree and to what specifics. (Announcements for all jobs (excepted service aside, think CIA/NSA) are all on USAJobs.gov If it's a requirement it's a pass/fail bar. A hiring official won't know you exist if you fail, HR kicks you out of the pool. Otherwise a degree is a couple extra points on your total. Federal Hiring officials by and large and HR before they even get to that point are going to assign a point score based on your resume and supporting documents. Points are assigned for meeting job criteria, that the hiring official has some control over but HR has some too in how the position was classified.

What does that mean in a nut shell - Degrees mean little, but something.

What perhaps means more? Military service. There are several hiring authorities for vets only. And vets preferrence will almost ALWAYS get you more points than a degree. And military service will get you more experience. Caveat if you write your resume like **** and don't credit your own experience no one can give you points to get you to the top of the list.

What do I mean by that? Well I've scored HS only vets higher than MS holding college grads. I've also graded vets that I knew managed 40 or more people because their application was written for ****. And even though I knew the position and what they did in the military it didn't mean I could give them credit during the hiring process.

The federal hiring process is all about what can be proven before, during and after the process. If it isn't in the application package or gleaned from the interview (if you make it that far), it doesn't exist or matter. The result is no job offer.

So my advice is go for a degree in a field you like that might get you a job. I know many federal LEO's with Biology/Chemistry/ etc degree's. I would never advise anyone to seek a degree for a job unless they are looking into Medicine or Legal. Those in my experience are the only fields were its an absolute.

As for my best advice. Seek out a nearby Federal Employee or in agency interested as a mentor to help with hiring process or career paths in said agency. Seek out internships and alternate hiring programs. Seek out career fairs where target agencies are attending to talk to people from that agency.

Good luck.

Porch Dweller · 07-02-2018, 10:21 AM

"late to the party", Jason? He could have a Master's by now!

kydsid · 07-02-2018, 10:46 AM

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"late to the party", Jason? He could have a Master's by now!

lol didn't even notice .

mosesbotbol · 07-03-2018, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Devanmc

So, What can be done with a bachelors or masters in political science? Opinions about this in general also

I have a Bachelors... Double major in Pol Sci and Philosophy. 2 Worthless majors IMO. If I were you, I would do computer science, cyber security, finance, or Asian language studies...

If you are looking for your college degree to open doors, Pol Sci is likely to open none.

icehog3 · 07-03-2018, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

I have a Bachelors... Double major in Pol Sci and Philosophy. 2 Worthless majors IMO. If I were you, I would do computer science, cyber security, finance, or Asian language studies...

If you are looking for your college degree to open doors, Pol Sci is likely to open none.

I have a Poli Sci degree, and I'm not on welfare.

09-25-2011, 02:31 PM	#1
Bill86 Snob Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Bill Posts: 6,704 Trading: (67)	Re: college major, advice? Mac is right. Logistics does have a good demand. Especially if you go to UT Knox or any other top 3 school for logistics. __________________ I'm drunk......but I'll get drunker! - Doug Stanhope

09-25-2011, 02:55 PM	#2
bvilchez En búsqueda..... Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Bolivar aka Jay Location: Back in SoCal Posts: 3,202 Trading: (76)	Re: college major, advice? Devan, with a poli sci degree I know of one place for sure you can get into and with your prior military experience it would be a plus...State Department. Check out their career fields they have. I've worked breifly at many embassies and the Regional Security Officer (RSO) is one who needs a degree in whatever field but play along the border of politics and national security and the embassy. Good pay and benefits. But again like many others stated, besides making money, think of something you would have fun working at/in. If not then a job is just a job and you'll find yourself switching careers for something else.

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GreekGodX Opa!! Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Christos Location: 7 Line Posts: 4,894 Trading: (82)	Re: college major, advice? I would do something that directly translates either into a masters degree or a job right out of college. Accounting, nursing, business administration, or human resources. With all of those it gives you a good foundation to either get a advanced degree or get a job. __________________ "If I give a businessman 10,000 francs, what is that to him, he is rich. But if I give him a Cohiba cigar, that is style."-Hotel Rwanda

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09-25-2011, 05:04 PM	#10
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kydsid Ditat Deus Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Jason Location: Among the Pines Posts: 2,361 Trading: (46)	Re: college major, advice? I'm late to the party but let me offer my wisdom as a career federal civil servant in 3 different departments, working law enforcement, science and general administration as an employee and supervisor/hiring official. PoliSci will get you somewhere with a three letter LEO agency, maybe, and possibly with State. Mostly it isn't going to matter for the following. If a degree is required, it flat out is and an announcement will say what degree and to what specifics. (Announcements for all jobs (excepted service aside, think CIA/NSA) are all on USAJobs.gov If it's a requirement it's a pass/fail bar. A hiring official won't know you exist if you fail, HR kicks you out of the pool. Otherwise a degree is a couple extra points on your total. Federal Hiring officials by and large and HR before they even get to that point are going to assign a point score based on your resume and supporting documents. Points are assigned for meeting job criteria, that the hiring official has some control over but HR has some too in how the position was classified. What does that mean in a nut shell - Degrees mean little, but something. What perhaps means more? Military service. There are several hiring authorities for vets only. And vets preferrence will almost ALWAYS get you more points than a degree. And military service will get you more experience. Caveat if you write your resume like ** and don't credit your own experience no one can give you points to get you to the top of the list. What do I mean by that? Well I've scored HS only vets higher than MS holding college grads. I've also graded vets that I knew managed 40 or more people because their application was written for . And even though I knew the position and what they did in the military it didn't mean I could give them credit during the hiring process. The federal hiring process is all about what can be proven before, during and after the process. If it isn't in the application package or gleaned from the interview (if you make it that far), it doesn't exist or matter. The result is no job offer. So my advice is go for a degree in a field you like that might get you a job. I know many federal LEO's with Biology/Chemistry/ etc degree's. I would never advise anyone to seek a degree for a job unless they are looking into Medicine or Legal. Those in my experience are the only fields were its an absolute. As for my best advice. Seek out a nearby Federal Employee or in agency interested as a mentor to help with hiring process or career paths in said agency. Seek out internships and alternate hiring programs. Seek out career fairs where target agencies are attending to talk to people from that agency. Good luck. __________________ Check out the Cigar Asylum Newbie Sampler Trade**

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Porch Dweller Life is for living Join Date: Oct 2012 First Name: James Location: Mississippi Gulf Coast Posts: 8,628 Trading: (24)	Re: college major, advice? "late to the party", Jason? He could have a Master's by now! __________________ A 1911 in the hand is faster than 911 on the phone