Pre-Embargo Cuban Cigars on Pawn Stars - Page 3

icehog3 · 05-08-2011, 08:20 AM

Looks like they have been wet at some point. I would say they are worth next to nothing, but would need to see them in person to say for sure.

Also, I see you are new here. Please know that we do not allow the sale of Cuban cigars here, except by International Retailers. Not implying that you are trying to sell these, just making sure you have perused the rules here.

05-08-2011, 10:41 AM

Thanks for the information. To me, they don't look like they've ever been wet. If they had, the bands would show it, and the bands are pristine. I'm not looking to sell them, just trying to get an idea of their value. Thanks Admiral.

Emjaysmash · 05-08-2011, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by rjg7107

Thanks for the information. To me, they don't look like they've ever been wet. If they had, the bands would show it, and the bands are pristine. I'm not looking to sell them, just trying to get an idea of their value. Thanks Admiral.

I think he's referring to the way the band is warped, as well at the wrappers on the cigars.

The band could have been warped just by the way they were packed in the box. The wrinkling of the cigar's wrapper leaf may suggest that they were wet at one time, or over humidified and then lost thier humidity. The expansion if the filler tobacco and then sudden drying can leave an ill fitting, wrinkled wrapper, IMHO.
YMMV.

landhoney · 05-10-2011, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Emjaysmash

I think he's referring to the way the band is warped, as well at the wrappers on the cigars.

The band could have been warped just by the way they were packed in the box. The wrinkling of the cigar's wrapper leaf may suggest that they were wet at one time, or over humidified and then lost thier humidity. The expansion if the filler tobacco and then sudden drying can leave an ill fitting, wrinkled wrapper, IMHO.
YMMV.

Or it could be that they were rolled without molds/forms, I seem to remember that they didn't use these 'back in the day' and that is why many pre-embargo's have that 'bumpy' appearance. Am I remembering that correctly? I may be way off.

pektel · 05-08-2011, 11:03 AM

I'm guessing they haven't been stored properly. Only because if they had, they wouldn't have been just "included" with on oldbox. I would say they have a little value as a novelty item, but no value as a smokeable vintage cigar.

Just saying.
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05-08-2011, 05:14 PM

Thanks everyone for your help. I appreciate your expertise.

05-09-2011, 09:34 AM

You know, I often wonder how many boxes of Cubans went to waste for people who know nothing about cigars and just bought a box just to say they did...... probably in the thousands.....

mfarre03 · 05-10-2011, 04:14 AM

Are Cuban cigar's that much better? I just can't see paying all that money for something that probably isn't as good as a Dominican or Nic.

Starscream · 05-10-2011, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mfarre03

Are Cuban cigar's that much better? I just can't see paying all that money for something that probably isn't as good as a Dominican or Nic.

It's all subjective. Some cubans suck; others are great. Some people prefer Nicaraguans over Cubans, some prefer Honduran or Dominican. Others smoke exclusively Cuban cigars. It's all a matter of preference.

I like a lot of cuban cigars, but I prefer NCs (but it all depends on what I'm smoking).

No offense Mike, but there are probably over a hundred threads on this site dealing with this subject. Just takes a little bit of reading.

mfarre03 · 05-10-2011, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Starscream

It's all subjective. Some cubans suck; others are great. Some people prefer Nicaraguans over Cubans, some prefer Honduran or Dominican. Others smoke exclusively Cuban cigars. It's all a matter of preference.

I like a lot of cuban cigars, but I prefer NCs (but it all depends on what I'm smoking).

No offense Mike, but there are probably over a hundred threads on this site dealing with this subject. Just takes a little bit of reading.

NOt offended, just tossing it out there, lol

icehog3 · 05-10-2011, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mfarre03

Are Cuban cigar's that much better? I just can't see paying all that money for something that probably isn't as good as a Dominican or Nic.

All that money? Most regular production Cubans are cheaper than premium Dominicans and Nicaraguans.

pektel · 05-10-2011, 11:46 AM

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All that money? Most regular production Cubans are cheaper than premium Dominicans and Nicaraguans.

This. And the general CC profile that makes it uniquie is, to me, delicious.

Blueface · 05-10-2011, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by mfarre03

Are Cuban cigar's that much better? I just can't see paying all that money for something that probably isn't as good as a Dominican or Nic.

Cubans suck.

icehog3 · 05-10-2011, 11:55 AM

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Cubans suck.

Speak for yourself, Man.

AdamJoshua · 03-06-2013, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueface

Cubans suck.

Yah got sick of Elián real fast, but their cigars are delicious.

Beagleone · 03-07-2013, 09:17 AM

Not to hijack the post, but I posted this photo in the Habanos forum some time ago, but this is a special four pack of Bolivars from 1956 for Nat Sherman.

Yes, they are for sell.

xxx_busa · 05-11-2011, 03:18 PM

Seriously - most are less expensive, At least that has been my luck.

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Originally Posted by mfarre03

Are Cuban cigar's that much better? I just can't see paying all that money for something that probably isn't as good as a Dominican or Nic.

DBall · 05-11-2011, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mfarre03

Are Cuban cigar's that much better? I just can't see paying all that money for something that probably isn't as good as a Dominican or Nic.

Mike, you live, like, an hour away from me. Come to Rochester and we'll have an in depth discussion about this. I'm gonna PM you my number.

xxx_busa · 03-06-2013, 04:39 PM

Just a little too dried out

bobarian · 03-06-2013, 04:42 PM

Nice review.

05-08-2011, 08:20 AM	#1
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,786 Trading: (60)	Re: Pre-Embargo Cuban Cigars on Pawn Stars Looks like they have been wet at some point. I would say they are worth next to nothing, but would need to see them in person to say for sure. Also, I see you are new here. Please know that we do not allow the sale of Cuban cigars here, except by International Retailers. Not implying that you are trying to sell these, just making sure you have perused the rules here. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

05-08-2011, 10:41 AM	#2
rjg7107 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Pre-Embargo Cuban Cigars on Pawn Stars Thanks for the information. To me, they don't look like they've ever been wet. If they had, the bands would show it, and the bands are pristine. I'm not looking to sell them, just trying to get an idea of their value. Thanks Admiral.

05-08-2011, 11:03 AM	#5
pektel I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Peter Location: Grand Rapids, MN Posts: 4,320 Trading: (28)	Re: Pre-Embargo Cuban Cigars on Pawn Stars I'm guessing they haven't been stored properly. Only because if they had, they wouldn't have been just "included" with on oldbox. I would say they have a little value as a novelty item, but no value as a smokeable vintage cigar. Just saying. Posted via Mobile Device

05-08-2011, 05:14 PM	#6
rjg7107 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Pre-Embargo Cuban Cigars on Pawn Stars Thanks everyone for your help. I appreciate your expertise.

05-09-2011, 09:34 AM	#7
lilwing88 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Pre-Embargo Cuban Cigars on Pawn Stars You know, I often wonder how many boxes of Cubans went to waste for people who know nothing about cigars and just bought a box just to say they did...... probably in the thousands.....

05-10-2011, 04:14 AM	#8
mfarre03 Never pet a burning dog.. Join Date: Apr 2011 First Name: Mike Location: Lockport, NY Posts: 280 Trading: (3)	Re: Pre-Embargo Cuban Cigars on Pawn Stars Are Cuban cigar's that much better? I just can't see paying all that money for something that probably isn't as good as a Dominican or Nic.

03-07-2013, 09:17 AM	#16
Beagleone Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Between here and there Posts: 842 Trading: (18)	Re: Pre-Embargo Cuban Cigars on Pawn Stars Not to hijack the post, but I posted this photo in the Habanos forum some time ago, but this is a special four pack of Bolivars from 1956 for Nat Sherman. Yes, they are for sell. __________________ Whoever said "laughter is the best medicine" didn't have gonorrhea.

03-06-2013, 04:39 PM	#19
xxx_busa Still Watching My Back Join Date: Mar 2011 First Name: Mark Location: Irvine Posts: 52 Trading: (0)	Re: Pre-Embargo Cuban Cigars on Pawn Stars Just a little too dried out

03-06-2013, 04:42 PM	#20
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: Pre-Embargo Cuban Cigars on Pawn Stars Nice review.