RH Question

[Bill86]

Originally Posted by Josh_Lucky_13

There is a very good point to experience and I do value it because I admit not having much. However I didnt just walk down an isle at wally world and say hey this is what I can use for cigars. When I first heard about it I honestly thought it was a noobie prank! Then I did research on it and learned from people with years of experience who learned from others with years of experience using KL. I was still skeptical but figured what the hell and wasted $16 on 8 pounds. I tested it for about a week in a few tupperware containers before I ever introduced it into a humidor. Now I know the KL vs beads is more of a back and forth thing but the way it was attacked in here does annoy me without any other view being allowed. Hell I may even do a side by side by side comparison eventually for more proof of which is better(I would not trust HF or any other bead manufacturer since they have a vested interest in the outcome). Still this is my first day on the site and my views on one thing clearly dont match from what I can tell anyone else. These first interactions with noobs set the tone for them. I went scrolling thru a few letters in the members list there are more than a few whose last day was their first. Now maybe it was they were here for free sticks or other reasons but it can also be the flow of the site and its member that can affect that. Whether the topic is KL vs beads, or humidors vs coolers, cc vs nc or glass top vs hard top, maduro vs connecticut everyone is entitled to those opinions and I think should be allowed to say them rather than team up against them. If you dont agree with those opinions you dont have to read them. Not saying anything bad against any of you tonight and I may have dragged it out a bit but I believe open conversations are good.

Here's the thing you only have a week experience on the KL and you say it already "works". Much more time is needed to really know for sure that it does indeed work.

Also from what people are saying here KL has a problem when the seasons change and whatnot. Now I cannot honestly say for sure that this is the case. But what I will say that the following that has not been mentioned.

1. Generally hygrometers are pieces of crap. Most people would agree that they are VERY temperamental and often do not work at all.
2. Seeing as how you cannot trust these devices you really want to be able to trust in your humidification to keep your cigars in good working order.

That's where we generally have a problem with pretty much anything that isn't beads or active humidification.

If you want to continue discussing this I would please ask you just PM me. I don't mind discussing this with you but I don't think dragging this thread on is going to please the masses. It also seems no one else is really engaged in this topic.

[newcigarz]

Kitty litter, beads, or something else it's all the same.

Just make sure you don't have a bad seal.

[icehog3]

Yes, for some people, their first day was their last. And yes, some because they just came to mooch cigars.

Others, because on their first day they got into a debate over one their beliefs, and continued to tout their weeks of experience over those with decades of experience. Often, they became insulting and were shown the door.

Josh, you have been relatively civil, with the exception of repeatedly saying that the members who disagree with you must be "close-minded" or that they are ganging-up on you. No one is ganging up, each one of us who posted individually disagrees with your idea. I would venture to say that you may be the one who is a little close-minded...maybe people with scores of years, decades doing this might have a little insight beyond weeks of internet research and a week of hands-on?

I hope you may decide to take an unemontional look at this community, we share a lot, learn a lot, laugh a lot. Lots of people who had a rough first couple days are now valued members of the community. Don't take it personally that so many people disagree with your idea, take some time to ponder why, and about how much more practical experience they may have doing this than you do. If you do, you may find this place has a lot to offer you, and eventually for you to offer it. If you don't, my guess your stay here will be short. Good luck.

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by Bageland2000

His name and his number of posts say that he's gone for good

Originally Posted by icehog3

I hope you may decide to take an unemontional look at this community, we share a lot, learn a lot, laugh a lot. Lots of people who had a rough first couple days are now valued members of the community. Don't take it personally that so many people disagree with your idea, take some time to ponder why, and about how much more practical experience they may have doing this than you do. If you do, you may find this place has a lot to offer you, and eventually for you to offer it. If you don't, my guess your stay here will be short. Good luck.

Looks like I called it. Too bad, many have found their niche in our great community.

[Bageland2000]

I love it here, and by the number of YOUR posts, so do you! hahahaha

[T.G]

If you say so. That's why you topped a 9-1/2 month old thread, after all, right?