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Old 03-13-2009, 08:38 PM   #1
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Old 03-13-2009, 08:32 PM   #2
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any chance this might get ported to WM?
not on a bet . Both of the people who use WM would be fighting over who gets to install it first
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Old 03-13-2009, 08:51 PM   #3
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Old 03-13-2009, 08:57 PM   #4
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Sorry, didn't realize I was so uncool!
nah, I don't want to start that us vs. them stuff. Just that the iPhone has some cool capabilities, and I decided that it was the best platform to try to develop a good cigar app. I've learned a ton about programming for the iPhone; I can't imagine trying to duplicate it all over again.

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Old 03-13-2009, 09:01 PM   #5
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nah, I don't want to start that us vs. them stuff. Just that the iPhone has some cool capabilities, and I decided that it was the best platform to try to develop a good cigar app. I've learned a ton about programming for the iPhone; I can't imagine trying to duplicate it all over again.

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Would you be willing to share your cigar database and general program design if someone else wanted to code it? Wouldn't be me, but I use a WM phone and love it, and a good program like this would really be nice. Nice enough to make me quit lurking and register for this forum
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Would you be willing to share your cigar database and general program design if someone else wanted to code it? Wouldn't be me, but I use a WM phone and love it, and a good program like this would really be nice. Nice enough to make me quit lurking and register for this forum
Obvious you registered to post in this forum.

Ken, it's your baby IMO I would not share this as it would open up to other things and you would not get the kickback you may be looking for. I'd hate for someone to steal the hard work that you did and claim it as their own.
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Old 03-15-2009, 02:55 PM   #7
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Obvious you registered to post in this forum.

Ken, it's your baby IMO I would not share this as it would open up to other things and you would not get the kickback you may be looking for. I'd hate for someone to steal the hard work that you did and claim it as their own.
Yes, obvious, since it's required.

There's no need to imply anything. I'm a WM user, and a cigar smoker. I have references on this board if I need them, though they probably don't know who I am right now heh. I think it'd be a cool thing to collaborate this project with someone to get it out there for the millions (yes, millions) who use Windows Mobile. I also think I'd use the heck out of it personally. Seems like a great app, that's all.
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Old 03-13-2009, 11:38 PM   #8
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More Notes/Thoughts:

1. I think it was fixed but multiple humidors with same names can be added and act the same once they are added. Troubles with moving and deleting cigars.

2. Date Acquired allows future dates to be added.
3. Year of cigar would be slicker in the scroll wheel option instead of the keypad. Plus the keypad allows multiple digit entries.
4. Color customizing would be great in the future. Especially for different humidors.
5. Main database should be secure and not able to edit once it is complete. Perhaps you could pay someone in cigars to add everything? You could also sell yearly database downloads??? (Sorry guys...trying to help him make some money for all the work he is doing..)
6. Rating system Scroll Wheel as well. (I really dislike the keypad...although it is easy it doesn't feel as slick or refined as flicking the scroll wheel up and down.) Maybe i have a thing for the price is right or something.
7. Being able to edit reference homepage for other names than Cuban or Non-Cuban. As much functionality as possible for me.
8. instead of deleting cigars from humidors....assuming they are being smoked. Have a recently smoked feature that keeps them in the database but deletes them from inventory. This way you could compare notes from specific smokes.
9. Can it connect to Cigar Asylum in anyway???? recent smokes...etc...


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Old 03-14-2009, 06:46 AM   #9
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1. I think it was fixed but multiple humidors with same names can be added and act the same once they are added. Troubles with moving and deleting cigars.
Yup, fixed in beta 2

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2. Date Acquired allows future dates to be added.
yeah, I was gonna limit that up to current date, but figured if people want to go crazy with future dates, it's their own data they are messing with. What do others think?

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3. Year of cigar would be slicker in the scroll wheel option instead of the keypad. Plus the keypad allows multiple digit entries.
Yup, I agree. See above for people messing with their own data though

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4. Color customizing would be great in the future. Especially for different humidors.
Cool idea for version 2.
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5. Main database should be secure and not able to edit once it is complete. Perhaps you could pay someone in cigars to add everything? You could also sell yearly database downloads??? (Sorry guys...trying to help him make some money for all the work he is doing..)
This one I really don't agree with. I want to make this useful for each individual, and people have different needs. Some folks don't need thousands of cigars in the reference, others will have cigars that I never heard of (especially in other countries). Also, the idea of adding "everything" is more daunting than I want to tackle. I'm not trying to make a business out this actually. Just started it as a hobby project because I wanted an app for personal use. Earning a few bucks back for my hundreds of hours of work on it would be nice, but still keeping it low key.

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6. Rating system Scroll Wheel as well. (I really dislike the keypad...although it is easy it doesn't feel as slick or refined as flicking the scroll wheel up and down.) Maybe i have a thing for the price is right or something.
I'm with you on this one; that's why I added scroll wheels for brand, vitola, etc. What scale would be appropriate for rating? 1 - 100?[/quote]

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7. Being able to edit reference homepage for other names than Cuban or Non-Cuban. As much functionality as possible for me.
Tricky one to design I think. Do you have some specific examples to help me think about how to do it?

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8. instead of deleting cigars from humidors....assuming they are being smoked. Have a recently smoked feature that keeps them in the database but deletes them from inventory. This way you could compare notes from specific smokes.
Definitely the most important version 2 feature. I want that functionality too
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I keep thinking about that as well. Again, specific examples of the interaction you'd like to see?

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Me too
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Old 03-14-2009, 12:52 PM   #10
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Default Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers

Awesome thread, just counting the days until my Tmobile contract is up and I can get an Iphone. Keep up the good work!
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I have a buddy that can't wait for this to be released
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Old 03-14-2009, 04:56 PM   #12
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I like the one on the right as well.
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Old 03-14-2009, 05:50 PM   #13
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This is becoming a nice little app as I continue to play with it. I am curious what you think of allowing the user to add a brand. I have several cigars that are out of production that are rarely heard off. It would be nice for me to be able to add those for the heck of it. Maybe a special selection humidor or something.
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This is becoming a nice little app as I continue to play with it. I am curious what you think of allowing the user to add a brand. I have several cigars that are out of production that are rarely heard off. It would be nice for me to be able to add those for the heck of it. Maybe a special selection humidor or something.
From the Cuban/Non-Cuban page, simply click the add button and add a new cigar. You'll have the opportunity to add a new brand to it. Any cigar in the reference section that has a unique brand will cause that brand to show up in the brand list. Nothing special about brand
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From the Cuban/Non-Cuban page, simply click the add button and add a new cigar. You'll have the opportunity to add a new brand to it. Any cigar in the reference section that has a unique brand will cause that brand to show up in the brand list. Nothing special about brand
Oh cool. For some reason I have over looked that I could add a new brand.

I am currently looking at the J. Fuego, it has one so far, the Corojo #1. I have the Corojo #5 I added it the the J. Fuego page. What I would like, instead of backing up to the cigar list, it would be nice to have an add button on the J. Fuego page. There is an edit button that allows me to delete the cigars on the J. Fuego page.

Did that make any sense?
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Oh cool. For some reason I have over looked that I could add a new brand.

I am currently looking at the J. Fuego, it has one so far, the Corojo #1. I have the Corojo #5 I added it the the J. Fuego page. What I would like, instead of backing up to the cigar list, it would be nice to have an add button on the J. Fuego page. There is an edit button that allows me to delete the cigars on the J. Fuego page.

Did that make any sense?
yes, and that's done for the next beta release. If you look at the screenshots I posted earlier today, you'll see there is now a toolbar at the bottom of the page with "Add Cigar". This will make it much easier to complete a list of cigars for a particular brand. Is that what you mean?
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Ah! That will work.
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