What Joe Cigar won't tell you, and how to fight it

[hornitosmonster]

Cigar Monster is making me forget about Joe cigar even existing...

I've never had anything but great experiences from the CI staff and their customer service is excellent. I'm not sure what your motivation is to post this nor how you can be so sure that they're selling sub-par product, if not factory seconds. Hope you've never purchased anything on CigarBid, cause that's CI, too. No matter if you think Joe's prices are a rip-off or not, the fact of the matter is, you'll never find a cheaper price on the cigars he's selling when comparing apples to apples. Ever. Just thought I'd add my during the Joecigar.com bashing session.

Jason

[brigey57]

Originally Posted by auburnfan1980

I've never had anything but great experiences from the CI staff and their customer service is excellent. I'm not sure what your motivation is to post this nor how you can be so sure that they're selling sub-par product, if not factory seconds. Hope you've never purchased anything on CigarBid, cause that's CI, too. No matter if you think Joe's prices are a rip-off or not, the fact of the matter is, you'll never find a cheaper price on the cigars he's selling when comparing apples to apples. Ever. Just thought I'd add my during the Joecigar.com bashing session.

Jason

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I'm joking....but seriously.

As always let the buyer beware. I have bought some smokes from Joe and have been happy. I always check the price on the web before I pull the trigger. JMHO but it is up to you to do your homework first!

Thanks for the post bro,something to keep in the back of my mind when and if i go through Joe!

[Drazzil]

I love that avatar man. I've always been a fan of monopoly.

[sikk50]

Good read, very eye opening

[Asher]

Originally Posted by Drazzil

1. "I move factory disgarded batches" and "My stuff is shipped green"

Sadly, a lot of the big names that appear on Joe (even the good deals) are most likely bad batches of an existing name.

Just my , but unless you have some facts to back this up, it's not cool to slam a vendor (and the manufacturers supplying these cigars) with an accusation like this. Some of the joecigar's deals are good, some aren't, and handmade premium cigars will never be completely consistent. To claim that CI, DPG, and others would compromise their reputations by selling second-quality products as "firsts" requires solid evidence, not just an anecdotal report of one box of cigars tasting different than another box.

Very interesting post

I don't feel you are bashing Joe at all. I have found while doing the math that you are right and instead of buying a box I can get the 10 for less sometimes. That happened to me with some Gurkha Titans and I always compare pricing from boxes all the way down to singles and then see if a sale is really a sale. As far as having a cigar order that didn't taste like it is supposed to, I haven't had a problem with CI.

[okieRob]

Thanks for the tip. I'm enough of a noob that I would have thought I didn't care for the brand I ordered rather than suspecting what you have pointed out.

- Rob

[weak_link]

I don't order from the joe deals very often but I've had pretty good luck, no complaints from me.

[SmokinApe]

"To claim that CI, DPG, and others would compromise their reputations by selling second-quality products as "firsts" requires solid evidence, not just an anecdotal report of one box of cigars tasting different than another box."

All I am saying is that when the DPG cigars that get sold on joe come in unsorted bundles, some coal black others light tan. I do believe that when the boxes are sorted the leftover gets celo'd & bundled and sent to the bulk discount retailers... all businesses work this way, why would cigars be different? I have bought numerous boxes of DPG JJ natural and maduro, blues and blacks... I have also bought all of these brands multiple times from joe, they have been different... flaky and papery wrappers, goofy coloring, too spicy, not spicy enough etc... I am not saying they are bad or not worth it, but they are different some of the time...

[Col. Kurtz]

Originally Posted by SmokinApe

All I am saying is that when the DPG cigars that get sold on joe come in unsorted bundles, some coal black others light tan. I do believe that when the boxes are sorted the leftover gets celo'd & bundled and sent to the bulk discount retailers... all businesses work this way, why would cigars be different? I have bought numerous boxes of DPG JJ natural and maduro, blues and blacks... I have also bought all of these brands multiple times from joe, they have been different... flaky and papery wrappers, goofy coloring, too spicy, not spicy enough etc... I am not saying they are bad or not worth it, but they are different some of the time...

My observation:

I won some 601 Blacks @ CBid, had some from a B&M. The Cbid ones looked like the oscuro, while the B&M's looked like a Connie. Had to go back and read my receipt to make sure they were Blacks. They are that much different! They both smoke great, so no biggie, but there is a big difference in those.

[awsmith4]

Originally Posted by Col. Kurtz

My observation:

I won some 601 Blacks @ CBid, had some from a B&M. The Cbid ones looked like the oscuro, while the B&M's looked like a Connie. Had to go back and read my receipt to make sure they were Blacks. They are that much different! They both smoke great, so no biggie, but there is a big difference in those.

The Oscuro is the Green label and the Connecticut is the Black label. Be careful at c-bid and NEVER trust the picture only the description.

[SmoknTaz]

Definitely food for thought, thanks for the post.

thread jack/
speaking of daily deals, cigarmonster doesn't seem to be loading for me? anyone else have any luck?

/thread jack

Originally Posted by j-easy

thread jack/
speaking of daily deals, cigarmonster doesn't seem to be loading for me? anyone else have any luck?

/thread jack

Continuing your thread jack, Cigar Monster is working for me.

Originally Posted by silentjon

Continuing your thread jack, Cigar Monster is working for me.

tj/ yeah its working now, was down for a couple hours though /tj

Drazzil, don't get upset that others are disagreeing with ya, bro. I appreciate your posts and efforts to share things that might help all the great BOTLs on this site and your opinion is definitely respected by me. I just think some others (including myself at first) thought you were unjustifiably slamming Joe, and since many of us have had a great experience with that site, we wanted to come to it's defense and present another point of view. I truly do appreciate your research and passion for trying to find the best deal around and sharing it with the rest of us, however.

Jason

[bilkay]

CI often has terrific deals. It's up to the purchaser to know what he's buying and to know how good (or not) the deal is. I just got 3 of the DPG 12 cigar samplers at $29.99 each. Even with the 2 CI Legends included, it's a great deal.