Anyone have issues with the Liga No.9?

[iaMkcK]

Sorry it didn't turn out as you had hoped. There are many more Ligas out there, just hope this one experience didn't ruin the Liga line for you.. Good luck in your future smokes, Chris.

[T.G]

Brooke is probably right. Correlation does not equal causation. Just because the other two cigars were ok, doesn't mean that the LP wasn't over humidified. Could have happened before you bought it, could have happened in the bag.

[Sonic04GT]

Originally Posted by T.G

Brooke is probably right. Correlation does not equal causation. Just because the other two cigars were ok, doesn't mean that the LP wasn't over humidified. Could have happened before you bought it, could have happened in the bag.

I certainly wouldn't rule it out, but the conditions were the same for all. Same humidor, into the same bag, for about the same time.

One of these times I'll give it another shot, but probably not soon.

[Sonic04GT]

Some pics of the culprit. About as far as I got with it.

[T.G]

Originally Posted by Sonic04GT

Some pics of the culprit. About as far as I got with it.

Looking at these photos there is nothing that screams bad construction so it really could be either construction or over humidification.

[T.G]

Originally Posted by Sonic04GT

I certainly wouldn't rule it out, but the conditions were the same for all. Same humidor, into the same bag, for about the same time.

One of these times I'll give it another shot, but probably not soon.

How do you know how long Abe had them? Or how long they were in Florida at the DE warehouse?

Let's assume that they actually were all exactly the same age, which I highly doubt, but for the sake of example, let's go with it. Liga Privada's don't come in cello (unless they are from a factory mazo) while UCs and MUWATs are in cello. While cello is permeable, it does serve as a buffer to the passage of humidity, so if the humidor at Smoke Inn was a bit high, the Liga is going to suck up that extra moisture faster than the other two. You only know the ambient conditions of the bag, not the amount of water that was in the cigar before you put it there. Now, while the converse about cello holds true when you put the cigar into a lower RH environment, going from 70+ to 66 (assuming your hygrometer is in fact accurate), unfortunately it's not going to drop that quickly in that environment, especially since water pillows have very limited ability to absorb excess moisture from the air.

Furthermore, not all tobaccos retain moisture at the same rate, the thicker, heavier tobaccos in the LP are more likely to hang on to it than some other tobaccos.

[oooo35980]

It's a bummer when you shell out money on a stick and it's a dud. My first and only Anejo had an incredibly loose draw and wouldn't stop going out, I bought it in Hawaii so it cost me about $18.00. I haven't tried another one since, and I probably never will.

On the other hand my first Padron 64 was dried out and nasty, and all of them I've had since have been great.

Liga No. 9 is a great cigar, while I wouldn't suggest that as a college student you forgo a weeks worth of Ramen Noodles for another one. You should definitely make it a priority to try one if you hit the lotto, they're among the best cigars you can buy IMHO.

[mkarnold1]

Hard to tell from the pics, but it looks like either a punch or a very thin cut as I can see all of the cap. I always start off with a thin cut (just taking the top of the cap off). When I run into draw issues, either with a punch or thin cut, I first try to cut the cigar at the shoulder and this will often open the draw enough to enjoy the cigar.

[big a]

I did note that you mentioned the cigars spent a couple weeks in the zip lock. Say the cigars had been over humidified their whole life, around 70-75% which is common for my B&Ms around here. I don't feel that 2 weeks in an an air tight bag at ~65% would be enough time collectively lower the sticks humidity.

Either way I'm sorry to hear you got a bad one, it bound to happen at some point. I wouldn't give up on LP as they have some great smoke. Its really hard to know what the true cause of this might have been.

[Sonic04GT]

Thanks for all the input guys. Not much I can do but suck it up I guess. Like I said maybe later on down the line I'll try another, but probably not anytime soon. I'll stick to Undercrowns.

[Sonic04GT]

Just scored a fiver of Undercrown Gran Toros for $25 from Cigar Monster so that will suit me