Viaje cigars

[jimmyk26]

Originally Posted by MiamiE

I love most Viaje LE's. Their regular blends are OK.

I am with you on this. I find that I really like the limited stuff that Viaje puts out, but I only try so hard to get them. If I do then great, I have cigars that I enjoy. If I don't, no big deal. I do find it odd though that the LEs, in my opinion, are way better than the regular blends. I would probably smoke more if I really liked one of the regular product lines.

[Devanmc]

Quiet the response to this, and thank you everyone. This does explain why we all "love" them so much. I guess it didnt realize it might partly be because of the bandwagon affect.

Being a relative new comer to this, im glad to be blessed with such a wealth of good people around this board to learn from. Which has helped me very much picking up good stick and discovering great ones. Things i would have never heard of before. Thanks inmates!

[T.G]

Originally Posted by Devanmc

Does anyone have any hate toward viaje? Seems kinda strange to ask, but i cant come up with anything to put in the negative side about viaje

Originally Posted by Devanmc

Quiet the response to this, and thank you everyone. This does explain why we all "love" them so much. I guess it didnt realize it might partly be because of the bandwagon affect.

There's a saying...

"If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all."

I know a number of BOTLs who are less than impressed with and don't care much for the Viaje cigars.

[kelmac07]

I've torched almost all of the Viajes (LEs included). The Holiday Blend is my hands-down favorite (hell it is even in my top three all time sticks). Also really enjoy the Oro Reserva. Not a huge fan of the limited release and the whole "hunting" them down thing. I have only been disappointed by one stick the original release Exclusivo (from the pickle jar). But Scott said it best...smoke what you like, like what you smoke.

[Chainsaw13]

Originally Posted by kelmac07

I have only been disappointed by one stick the original release Exclusivo (from the pickle jar).

See, that's been my favorite so far. Now the DES to me has been a big dissappointment. I've yet to have one that justified the cost.

For me the Viaje line has been hit or miss. The first Oro line I had blew me away. The 2nd one was meh. Some of the LE stuff has been stellar, others not so much.

[Devanmc]

i feel like they might do this on purpose...

As for there LE im extremely persistent and when i want something i dont usually give up. So once i decide to get something it usually happens.

[akumushi]

Ok, so I agree that it gets irritating when every LE is like a feeding frenzy and the prices soar and the cigars are near impossible to get your hands on unless you jump on every release when it comes out and you have to risk ending up with an untried cigar that you hate or missing out on one that ends up being stellar. The good thing is that we're part of a community that really shares the love and a lot of us get to try these otherwise unattainable cigars thanks to our generous BOTL.
BUT...
In defense of the whole concept of LE cigars. Big companies like General will not even consider making a cigar unless they have enough tobacco to make it consistent over tens of thousands of boxes of cigars, even if that cigar would be really great and tasty. Small boutique companies have much smaller batches of tobacco to work from and sometimes they have a great idea for a cigar but can only make 500-1000 boxes. And maybe the cigar is so unique and specialized that even if they could make more, they're not sure they would be able to sell all of it. In comes the concept of the limited run; use that small batch of superior tobacco in creative and unique ways, put it out and see how it does. That way you don't get a cigar that is awesome upon release but starts to decline and then is completely different and inferior a few years later when the original tobaccos run out and the producer is forced to substitute some of the leaf, unintentionally dilluting or changing the blend, and you don't get a novel idea that is quickly forgotten and ends up losing money for the producer who has sunk whole crops of tobacco into a failed product.
I actually think it is a miracle that brands like Fuente and Padron keep any consistency at all in their lines, and that is only possible because they own huge farms, have HUMONGOUS stockpiles of their own tobacco stored up to ensure consistency and are fully integrated topdown operations where they control everything. Small boutique operators that have to procure their tobacco from other companies cannot guarantee consistency in the long run, and thus in order to get more variety and to maximize their profits they resort to limited runs. It may hurt our wallets and be frustrating at times, but a lot of the cigars we love simply would not be possible to produce as anything but limited releases, so in the end, for those of us that love variety and like to try new, different and experimental cigars, limited releases are actually a great innovation in the market and benefit the community as a whole.
Do some producers carry it too far and just gouge our wallets over specially packaged garbage? Yes, but there are also PHENOMINAL cigars that would not have existed at all if they weren't made as part of a very limited release. I think that the concept of LEs, at least in theory if not always in practice, makes complete sense and is good for both the consumer and the producer

[Adriftpanda]

Clayton, I love you man.

Whatever he said, I'm with him. Couldn't have said it any better.

[longknocker]

Originally Posted by Adriftpanda

Clayton, I love you man.

Whatever he said, I'm with him. Couldn't have said it any better.

So True!

[Devanmc]