Cigar Asylum Cigar Forum  

Go Back   Cigar Asylum Cigar Forum > Non Cigar Specialty Forums > Misc > General Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-02-2010, 10:29 AM   #1
Thrak
.. the man from Nantucket
 
Thrak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Canton, GA
Posts: 558
Trading: (2)
HUpmann
Thrak is on a distinguished road
Default Re: A Real World Solution To the Gulf Oil Spills

Quote:
Originally Posted by catfish2 View Post
Why not hold them responsible? They have the contracts for that well. Their the general on this job. Their the ones that make multi-millions if not billions in profits each year. I hear Rush Limbaugh (and others) give lip service to things like: personal responsibility and family values. This is when we can prove that those are real values and not just lies. Lets stop rewarding the criminals in society. Stop the bailout for companies that conduct their business in incompetent ways then ask for tarp funds because their "too big to fail". Stop rewarding federal law breakers with citizenship. I don't see BP saying "were sorry" by lowering the price of gas. Personal responsibility is not just for people. It's for companies also.
Wow lots to go over here... First, I never said 'dont hold them responsible', I said I'm not sure they are the ones responsible for the problem at hand.

Do you think other companies (Transocean for ex.) dont 'make multi-millions if not billions' each year being the drilling company? I fail to see where profits apply to the situation.

Companies do have an obligation, but are you implying that you dont think BP is doing their best? Do you think BP engineers, manufactures and assembles all the drilling equipment? I'm not really sure what you point is here, since I know they're working as hard and as quickly as possible... do you think these parts just come out of thin air?

The bailouts are something totally different and I'm not going to touch on them (even though I mostly agree w/ you). I havent heard anyone, anywhere, say BP is going to get bailed out so I dont even know why you're bringing that up.

Same with citizenship... you seem to have alot of angst and dont know where to direct it.
Thrak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2010, 11:00 AM   #2
catfish2
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: A Real World Solution To the Gulf Oil Spills

Let me try and clear my position a little. I believe that ALL the companies involved should be held responsible to the degree that they were involved. I'm just saying that just because BP sub-contracted out the work, that doesn't lessen their part. One of the things that could have been used that might have stopped this (and I stress might). Was acoustic valves. Bp from what I understand didn't want to use them because they cost about $200,000.00 a pop. Sounds kind of cheap at this point, doesn't it. Now this is where I'm going to be called crazy . But, I believe that the best long term solution is to open up some of those black budget military projects and develop the energy source for the future. This country became what it is in part because of innovation. The abacus was replaced by the slide rule, then the calculator then the computer. The horse and carriage was replaced by the automobile. If we don't develop it some other country will. Then we will be left behind wondering what happened.
Right now the number one goal should be to stop the leak. The number two goal should be clean up.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2010, 07:06 AM   #3
MortonMilo
Blowing smoke
 
MortonMilo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
First Name: R
Posts: 215
Trading: (10)
MortonMilo has disabled reputation
Default Re: A Real World Solution To the Gulf Oil Spills

Quote:
Originally Posted by thebayratt View Post
I tell u this much, we used to go to a BP gas station and get Diesel for our work trucks and food in the morning.......... haven't been there in a few weeks now...
Boycotting bp stations doesn't necessarily hurt their bottom line. Bp doesn't own many of the bp branded filling stations, as they are franchised out. Most of the major oil companies are moving this direction and selling their stations. The way oil companies trade oil and gasoline, you have as good of a chance filling up with bp made gasoline at an Exxon station as you do at a bp. Only person that gets hurt in a boycott is the franchisee.
MortonMilo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2010, 01:50 PM   #4
MiamiE
I'm nuts for the place
 
MiamiE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
First Name: Erick
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 2,892
Trading: (38)
RA
MiamiE will become famous soon enoughMiamiE will become famous soon enough
Default Re: A Real World Solution To the Gulf Oil Spills

BP is not going anywhere. Believe that.
MiamiE is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:18 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
All content is copyrighted jointly by Cigar Asylum and the content provider.