Storage Upgrade Suggestions?

[markem]

I'm a big fan of reusing boxes and using 5-finger bags for storage. I use old boxes (cabs usually) if I have some sticks that I want to put down for some time. I use 5-finger bags for singles where I will probably smoke them or gift them in the near term (next 6 months or so). Both approaches seem to work quite well.

I've recently exceeded my box storage (3 vinotemps) so will use my coolers until I decide on how best to go for long term storage - either an aristocrat or converting a walk-in closet to a walk-in humi.

btw, I keep all my empty boxes in coolers at 65% humidity so that they are ready to go when I need to press them into service. I mostly save all wood boxes, which mostly means cabs.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=9222616

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by Kreth

Well, it's time to upgrade. Due to recent bombs and lopsided trades, both my 100 count desktop and 30 count Cigar Caddy are about to burst.
I think my only option will be a coolerdor, due to limited funds. I have a 1/2 lb. of Scott's beads on the way, so I think I should be good up to about a 75 qt. cooler. I'll have to check Wally World and BJ's to see if they have anything on clearance.
One question, what do you coolerdor owners do for singles storage? Spare boxes? Buy a tray to sit on top of your box storage? I buy a lot of 5ers and singles, both to try new stuff and because I can't afford boxes of the pricier sticks. Right now the top tray in my desktop is stacked 3 high with various sticks, and it's a PITA to take the tray out without dumping sticks all over.
Another question, with Oust fans getting scarce, what's a good alternative? I'm thinking with a 75 qt. cooler, I could get by with two fans.
Oh, one more thing: with my current lack of storage space, I'm declaring my little corner of NY a No Fire Zone.
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I use empty boxes for singles storage. I had been doing that for a few years. Just recently, I bought to cedar trays and like them very much.

If you are in and out of your cooler regularly, you don't need a fan. I have two coolers and one is for longer term storage which is rarely opened. I use one fan in there. The other cooler is opened at least once or twice a week - sometimes more. Absolutely no need for a fan in that one.

So you have <130 cigars.

Anyone have Kreth's address?

[elderboy02]

I have a hygro that shows the highs and lows over a 24 hour period. The coolers are more stable than my humis even with me opening and closing the cooler multiple times.

[Kreth]

The struggle continues.
I'm fighting to keep my desktop at 60% with a Puck from Cigarmony, even with the beads fully saturated. I think I can fix this by replacing the Puck with another 8 oz. bag of Scott's beads, and maybe a bead of silicone around the glass top.
For additional storage, I appropriated a 28 qt. Sterilite bin that we had laying around. Crappy seal, but I built it up a bit with masking tape, and the RH is reasonably stable with 8 oz. of Scott's beads. I just need to throw in a damp sponge for a few hours every couple of days when the RH dips.
I've been watching eBay, craigslist, and the WTS for better options. Since I can't smoke more than 1-2 cigars/week in this cold, I should really stay off the devil site for a few weeks and save my cigar budget for better storage and maybe another digital hygrometer.
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[replicant_argent]

Originally Posted by Kreth

The struggle continues.
I'm fighting to keep my desktop at 60% with a Puck from Cigarmony, even with the beads fully saturated. I think I can fix this by replacing the Puck with another 8 oz. bag of Scott's beads, and maybe a bead of silicone around the glass top.
For additional storage, I appropriated a 28 qt. Sterilite bin that we had laying around. Crappy seal, but I built it up a bit with masking tape, and the RH is reasonably stable with 8 oz. of Scott's beads. I just need to throw in a damp sponge for a few hours every couple of days when the RH dips.
I've been watching eBay, craigslist, and the WTS for better options. Since I can't smoke more than 1-2 cigars/week in this cold, I should really stay off the devil site for a few weeks and save my cigar budget for better storage and maybe another digital hygrometer.
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Sounds like you are doing a hell of a lot of screwing around when you could buy a small good sealing cooler for 12 bucks at Wally World.

[looking for know]

I have yet to regret moving into coolers. It's as if they were made for keeping cigars at a consistent RH level.

[longknocker]

Originally Posted by looking for know

I have yet to regret moving into coolers. It's as if they were made for keeping cigars at a consistent RH level.

[looking for know]

I don't know. Liquid nails = fumes.

Why the sealant? Check the lids on the coolers. Some just "rest on top" when closed, others seal tight. IMO, Get one that fits tight and seals without the need for sealants.

[kaisersozei]

Originally Posted by looking for know

I don't know. Liquid nails = fumes.

Why the sealant? Check the lids on the coolers. Some just "rest on top" when closed, others seal tight. IMO, Get one that fits tight and seals without the need for sealants.

I think he's using the sealant around the glasstop of his humidor. Sounds like a good idea, I probably need to do the same but just never got to it. That's where I'd bet I'm losing humidity in the winter (humi drops from 65% to 53% from about Dec thru March when the ambient house humidity plummets to below 25%.)

Not sure that I'd use Liquid Nails though.

[replicant_argent]

Fish tank silicone would be the best as far as outgassing, it is pretty pure, fish are sensitive.
Any pet store. Wait 3-4 days before re-introduction.

[Kreth]

Originally Posted by T.G

Just to clarify, Permatex is just a brand name, just happens to be what most auto parts stores here sell. Any quality clear or black slicone should be fine.

I figured it was a brand name. I'll check Advanced Auto Parts or Home Depot, whichever I get to first. Clear silicone would look better, I think.

Originally Posted by replicant_argent

Fish tank silicone would be the best as far as outgassing, it is pretty pure, fish are sensitive.
Any pet store. Wait 3-4 days before re-introduction.

You know, one reason I grabbed the Liquid Nails (aside from the smaller tube) was that it said it's safe for fishtanks right on the package. Guess the fish don't mind the smell.
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[T.G]

Originally Posted by Kreth

I figured it was a brand name. I'll check Advanced Auto Parts or Home Depot, whichever I get to first. Clear silicone would look better, I think.

You know, one reason I grabbed the Liquid Nails (aside from the smaller tube) was that it said it's safe for fishtanks right on the package. Guess the fish don't mind the smell.
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Home Depot will probably have GE Silicone II in squeeze tubes. It's a quality product.


Wait a second, did you buy liquid nails _construction_adhesive_ or some other product under the liquid nails brand name? If they have a silicone, you might be fine using it - I only have experience with liquid nails constuction adhesive and their underlayment adhesives, if they make a silicone, I've never used it, so no specific comments regarding it.

[Kreth]

Originally Posted by T.G

Home Depot will probably have GE Silicone II in squeeze tubes. It's a quality product.


Wait a second, did you buy liquid nails _construction_adhesive_ or some other product under the liquid nails brand name? If they have a silicone, you might be fine using it - I only have experience with liquid nails constuction adhesive and their underlayment adhesives, if they make a silicone, I've never used it, so no specific comments regarding it.

Package says Liquid Nails Clear Seal All-Purpose Sealant. It's not going to work, the stuff reeks.
Since this seems to be an area of expertise for you, I'll go with one of the products you recommended. Thanks for the tips.
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[T.G]

Originally Posted by Kreth

Package says Liquid Nails Clear Seal All-Purpose Sealant. It's not going to work, the stuff reeks.
Since this seems to be an area of expertise for you, I'll go with one of the products you recommended. Thanks for the tips.
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This one?

http://www.liquidnails.com/products/...sp?productId=4

Never used it and I don't know anything about it.

It might be fine. I just don't know.



No expert here on the other ones, just many years using them...

[Thrak]

I have a humi with glass top and 2 glass windows in front... I found these silicone ear plugs at the drug store that you can roll out into little strips. Odorless, clear, easy to work with and cost like $2 for 12 plugs. I didnt even use 6 of them to seal it all up...

Here they are.. I got them at CVS
http://www.macksearplugs.com/pillow_...e_earplugs.htm

[Kreth]

I should've grabbed the Xtreme 70 qt. when I saw it last week. I ended up snagging an Igloo Family 48 qt. (no idea where it came from, it wasn't out last week). I'll scrub it out with baking soda and water tonight.
Also picked up some GE Silicone II (yes, he can be taught!) for the desktop humi, and some Backwoods since I didn't plan this quitting cigs things very well. I think I'm gonna order some Holt's Shorties tomorrow...
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[LooseCard]

A lot of good info here, that's for sure.

Varnished/un-varnished, makes no difference.

You don't want a completely airtight system, but restricted. You sticks do need to breathe as they continue to "offgas" as they continue to mature. (ever find an Ammonia-type smell in your cooler???)


And one last thing...

[Kreth]

Originally Posted by LooseCard

And one last thing...

Um, yeah, about that... I won't be posting pics of an empty cooler...
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