Does anyone know the meaning of "No Soliciting"

as somebody who has sadly worked door to door for a non profit... we are told it doesnt matter what your sign says, we are to ask. We always had a signed paper from the city saying we were allowed to be there and asking for donations. got a new paper everyday. plenty of people hated me, but I still got a ton of donations everyday. I also hate solicitors, but until it stops working, I cant really blame them...

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by SixPackSunday

as somebody who has sadly worked door to door for a non profit... we are told it doesnt matter what your sign says, we are to ask. We always had a signed paper from the city saying we were allowed to be there and asking for donations. got a new paper everyday. plenty of people hated me, but I still got a ton of donations everyday. I also hate solicitors, but until it stops working, I cant really blame them...

I can, if I have a "No Solictors Welcome" sign posted clearly on my door, and one of them rings my bell at 9AM after I have worked a graveyard shift.

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by SixPackSunday

we are told it doesnt matter what your sign says, we are to ask.

That's the issue. People publicly post a sign declining any solicitation yet solicitors blatantly ignore that information. Any organization who ignores such information is just plain rude behavior IMO.

Similar situation is with phone solicitors. I know they are just doing a job but when I say "Thanks but I'm not interested." and they keep yammering ignoring what I've said, courtesy is abandoned and I give them piece of my mind.

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by pnoon

Similar situation is with phone solicitors. I know they are just doing a job but when I say "Thanks but I'm not interested." and they keep yammering ignoring what I've said, courtesy is abandoned and I give them piece of my mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXjAIizqZNI

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by icehog3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXjAIizqZNI

Exactly!

[TripleF]

Actually I do know the meaning. After having been in door-to-door sales for a number of years I decided to find out what 'solicit' meant. It has nothing to do with intruding on an indivdual's privacy.......it means to 'entice'.


I highly recommend changing your sign to having something to do with knocking or ringing the bell.

Just tryin' to help.

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by TripleF

Actually I do know the meaning. After having been in door-to-door sales for a number of years I decided to find out what 'solicit' meant. It has nothing to do with intruding on an indivdual's privacy.......it means to 'entice'.


I highly recommend changing your sign to having something to do with knocking or ringing the bell.

Just tryin' to help.

Scott, I am thinking of changing my sign to:

"If I don't know you, and you ring the bell, I am gonna #@*& you up."

That would hopefully stop the "enticers".

[TripleF]

Originally Posted by landhoney

As a door to door salesman you are trying to entice them into buying your product/giving to charity/etc. If I don't want people trying to entice me into something on my property, then that is an intrusion. The word soliciting/solicitor is a good "catch all" because it covers sales/salesman, charities, etc. etc. The are all trying to solicit/entice you into something. At least that's the way I see it.

.....and you can see how affectively "NO SOLICITING" signs work, huh

[rizzle]

Originally Posted by SixPackSunday

as somebody who has sadly worked door to door for a non profit... we are told it doesnt matter what your sign says, we are to ask. We always had a signed paper from the city saying we were allowed to be there and asking for donations. got a new paper everyday. plenty of people hated me, but I still got a ton of donations everyday. I also hate solicitors, but until it stops working, I cant really blame them...

Originally Posted by icehog3

I can, if I have a "No Solictors Welcome" sign posted clearly on my door, and one of them rings my bell at 9AM after I have worked a graveyard shift.

Originally Posted by pnoon

That's the issue. People publicly post a sign declining any solicitation yet solicitors blatantly ignore that information. Any organization who ignores such information is just plain rude behavior IMO.

Similar situation is with phone solicitors. I know they are just doing a job but when I say "Thanks but I'm not interested." and they keep yammering ignoring what I've said, courtesy is abandoned and I give them piece of my mind.

It's the whole "non-profit" that sadly allows them to get around the wishes of most, and the laws of all. I don't get many at my door but my freaking phone rings off the hook. I literally haven't answered it until after 9 PM for 8+ years.

Originally Posted by rizzle

I don't get many at my door but my freaking phone rings off the hook. I literally haven't answered it until after 9 PM for 8+ years.

Same idea here, if the caller ID isn't familiar (and somebody I actually want to talk to) I don't pick up. I've made an exception once or twice when the same number calls 3 times a day for several days on end and refuses to leave a message, but then I typically have a few choice words when I do pick up


Same general idea with my front door, if I didn't invite somebody over and the bell rings or somebody knocks, I don't even go look who it is. I've had (uninvited) friends call me before from my front door because they knew I was home but I didn't open the door .

[mojo65]

Back in Seattle we had a problem with Jehovah witness knocking on the door early Saturday morning. I worked graveyard Friday nights, after the third weekend in a row,
I was laying in wait for them.

speakers in the window, with IRON Maiden's 666 Number Of The Beast cued up.


Never came back. go figure.

[ade06]

Times are tough and people are just trying to make a living. Give them a break. If you really don't want to be bothered by anyone, move out of the city/suburbs and into the country side (just joking, unless you find this advice useful).

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i am so so sorry

I can see when people walk up to my door and when I'm sure they are trying to sell me something I usually grab my 8 inch chefs knife, answer the door and say I'm busy cutting things. Usually they see the knife and hesitate or take my statement as true and leave. There are some nasty bastages that just won't leave tho and I usually have to close the door on them.

[Volt]

Because I expect people at my door to be rude - she answers the door - yes she bites:

[ade06]

Originally Posted by Volt

Because I expect people at my door to be rude - she answers the door - yes she bites:

Those are some of the meanest dogs out there!

[Volt]

Originally Posted by ade06

Those are some of the meanest dogs out there!

Naw - very loving and easy to get along with. This is our 4th chow and is the perfect breed for my household. 100% loyal to the family and doesn't take **** from strangers. She isn't agressive but she is assertive and if you don't belong, you get fair warning. When they knock on the door she barks and raises hell and that is enough for them to usually just back off and find another house to bug. Then she gets her bisquit for a job well done.

[357]

I've been on both sides. I used to sell long distance phone service for MCI-Worldcom back in the late 90's when I was in college. It was a small town and the only job to be found. Plus the pay was decent, hours were great, and the perks were unlimited. Still a handful of people quit everyday from the abuse people gave us for bothering them. Regularly I would hear "F%&* this I QUIT" and that person would throw their headset and walk out.

I personally hate being bothered by solicitors too. Door to Door is worse IMO. Phone, you can hang up. At your door, it's a little more personal.


Plus a few tips since I've worked in the business:

If someone calls you to sell something they have to:

1. Say their first name, LAST name, and what company they work for within 15 seconds of you answering.

2. They cannot lie, mislead, or tell you that you've won some prize just to get you to listen to a sales pitch

3. They cannot change your long distance or phone carrier without your explicit permission.

If any of these are violated they carry fines from the federal government ranging from $20,000 up to $100,000 per occurance. File an official complaint, companies usually record 50-100% of these calls and log caller/number/timestamp for 100%. They know who called you and when. Write down the info and file a complaint. The person will probably be fired, and if you follow through the company can pay huge.

Also, to prevent the calls sign up with the national Do-Not-Call registry. If you still get non-sales calls and don't want to be called, ask each one to put you on THEIR do-not call list. By law they have to send you written verification of such if you ask. They are then not allowed to call you for 10 years, even if the phone number is transferred to a new owner.


For fun listening where someone gets even with telemarketers, Google a guy named Tom Mabe.

Originally Posted by 357

I've been on both sides. I used to sell long distance phone service for MCI-Worldcom back in the late 90's when I was in college. It was a small town and the only job to be found. Plus the pay was decent, hours were great, and the perks were unlimited. Still a handful of people quit everyday from the abuse people gave us for bothering them. Regularly I would hear "F%&* this I QUIT" and that person would throw their headset and walk out.

I personally hate being bothered by solicitors too. Door to Door is worse IMO. Phone, you can hang up. At your door, it's a little more personal.


Plus a few tips since I've worked in the business:

If someone calls you to sell something they have to:

1. Say their first name, LAST name, and what company they work for within 15 seconds of you answering.

2. They cannot lie, mislead, or tell you that you've won some prize just to get you to listen to a sales pitch

3. They cannot change your long distance or phone carrier without your explicit permission.

If any of these are violated they carry fines from the federal government ranging from $20,000 up to $100,000 per occurance. File an official complaint, companies usually record 50-100% of these calls and log caller/number/timestamp for 100%. They know who called you and when. Write down the info and file a complaint. The person will probably be fired, and if you follow through the company can pay huge.

Also, to prevent the calls sign up with the national Do-Not-Call registry. If you still get non-sales calls and don't want to be called, ask each one to put you on THEIR do-not call list. By law they have to send you written verification of such if you ask. They are then not allowed to call you for 10 years, even if the phone number is transferred to a new owner.


For fun listening where someone gets even with telemarketers, Google a guy named Tom Mabe.

Here it is, Its funny as hell!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un_PjRXV5l8

some good points by all for sure...

I first heard tom mabe on the bob and tom show, HILARIOUS.

As many rude people as I dealt when in doing non profit donations, that was really the smallest part of my day. Plus there was nothing better than hitting up a random rich guy who donated your entire weeks goal!

lastly... being a very avid dog lover, barking dogs never scared me away from a house. they usually made me WANT to talk to the owner so I could see if the dog was friendly enough to pet.

then there were the days we would do scavengar hunts.... oh man... 'Hi yes I work for blah blah blah and were going door to door to day to help fight for clean air and water in your city. yada yada yada' then at the very end 'btw, would happen to have an applor or coffee mug I could have for a scavenger hunt i'm doing today?' we had so much fun with those!