is it wrong to withold a source? - Page 2

02-17-2009, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smokin Gator

If it were me... yes... you would be wrong to withhold said source. Otherwise, no, it would be fine. Plus, if they throw down a name they you know you did right.

i have no problems sharing sources with you if you asked. i know you or at least i know of you and your amazing BBQ

zmancbr · 02-17-2009, 04:32 PM

I think you have every right to not share sources in that case. The HTF fuente stuff is HTF for a reason and some joe off the street should not expect to get something just handed to him without earning it through reputation.

If he called you some nice choice names, then he proved you right for not giving him the source!

RevSmoke · 02-17-2009, 04:33 PM

That is kind of like fishing holes. I might take someone there, but I don't just give secrets away.

I told one guy about a great quiet little stream. I get there one day, my day off no less - and there he is with three of his buddies. He gives me the, "Hey Todd, um, sorry to say this, but we were here first. You're going to need to find a different spot."

We were talking later about some walleye fishing. He asked where I was fishing. I told him, "Oh, a local lake."

"Which one?" he asks.

I simply smiled and said, "Hey, I had to work to discover it myself, and I only get one day off a week. You have two. Do a little trial and error."

He called me some names too.

Just smile.

Smokin Gator · 02-17-2009, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RevSmoke

That is kind of like fishing holes. I might take someone there, but I don't just give secrets away.

I told one guy about a great quiet little stream. I get there one day, my day off no less - and there he is with three of his buddies. He gives me the, "Hey Todd, um, sorry to say this, but we were here first. You're going to need to find a different spot."

We were talking later about some walleye fishing. He asked where I was fishing. I told him, "Oh, a local lake."

"Which one?" he asks.

I simply smiled and said, "Hey, I had to work to discover it myself, and I only get one day off a week. You have two. Do a little trial and error."

He called me some names too.

Just smile.

Exactly... I have a very nearly same story when I was guiding. This one was on TV and I went back to the spot and saw the camera man in the spot. I nearly jumped off of my boat and strangled him.

Steve · 02-18-2009, 04:40 PM

Mucho UNcool!

BTW, where was that fabulous poon spot and what tide was it? J/K

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smokin Gator

Exactly... I have a very nearly same story when I was guiding. This one was on TV and I went back to the spot and saw the camera man in the spot. I nearly jumped off of my boat and strangled him.

Smokin Gator · 02-18-2009, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve

Mucho UNcool!

BTW, where was that fabulous poon spot and what tide was it? J/K

Just for you brother...

This is a deep hole on the north side of Pine Island right off of the Intracoastal.Last half hour of the outgoing and first half hour of the incoming

But it was a redfish spot.

Steve · 02-20-2009, 05:37 PM

It's been a while since I've gotten down around there, but there are quite a few good spots down around there as I recall. I still figure you and I will have to do a recon one of these days!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smokin Gator

Just for you brother...

This is a deep hole on the north side of Pine Island right off of the Intracoastal.Last half hour of the outgoing and first half hour of the incoming

But it was a redfish spot.

M1903A1 · 02-17-2009, 04:41 PM

It's your source, you did the legwork to find it. And, a source is "unequal information", if you will...it's valuable because it's not common. Once others start to know it, it declines in value fast.

Why should you be under any obligation to give it up to just anybody? That's like giving away money to a stranger. You worked for it, why should you just give it away?

Skywalker · 02-17-2009, 04:41 PM

As long as you share them with me and no one else... I won't call you names!!!

Seriously, your sources are yours to give or keep!!! Name calling is for the immature!!!

karmaz00 · 02-17-2009, 04:43 PM

i would have no problem sharing sources....but some are better left unsaid

02-17-2009, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karmaz00

i would have no problem sharing sources....but some are better left unsaid

you would share sources with someone you've never met or someone who is a total newb with minimal participation in the community?

as stated above, i have no problems giving these sources out to people i know i can trust.

Mugen910 · 02-17-2009, 05:43 PM

give up on NCs and keep CC sources private..problem solved

Tio Gato · 02-17-2009, 06:01 PM

If you're gonna post a good find people are gonna ask where. It's human nature.
Don't worry if they call you names. Sticks and stones, heh?

Sometimes I think of the Wizard of Oz. Remember the line "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain."
Sometimes we are that man, other times it's someone calling us names, other times it's people questioning our motives, beliefs, etc.
Like the internet, the "curtain" provides a place to hide behind until it is drawn gently back.

Pay no attention to those that would get your blood pressure up.
Life's too short.

02-17-2009, 05:45 PM

by the way....can you set me up with a good NC source? Mine isn't as good as yours.

LOL

02-17-2009, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyanide

by the way....can you set me up with a good NC source? Mine isn't as good as yours.

LOL

yes but i don't believe they ship to canada

DPD6030 · 02-17-2009, 06:02 PM

If it is someone I don't know or others don't know and can't recommend them then no, keep it to yourself. If you know them personally then I say go ahead. If they screw things up for you then you lost your source. I've shared sources but everyone knows it anyways.

02-17-2009, 07:11 PM

No I don't think it's wrong.I think that it's personal choice,and if someone gets mad about it tough.

SeanGAR · 02-18-2009, 04:36 PM

I know this one guy ... used to be gurhka smoker ... he subtly asked in a post where one might get some of the forbidden fruit.

Did I feel bad when I told him? No ... he seemed like a nice guy from my limited online interactions with him.

So I told him .... www.papayas-r-us.com.

Now his collection of papayas is truly impressive. His buying hasn't interfered with mine because he graduated to sites that I have not used: www.ripe-red-papayas.com, www.nuthin-but-papayas.net and www.aged-dunhill-payapas-for-all.com.

But in your case I wouldn't sweat not telling somebody. They don't understand, well that's just too FB.

02-17-2009, 07:15 PM

Your source, your call.

02-17-2009, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nozero

Your source, your call.

couldnt agree more

02-17-2009, 04:32 PM	#2
zmancbr CERTIFIED THREAD KILLER!! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Zach Location: Color Red Posts: 1,692 Trading: (41)	Re: is it wrong to withold a source? I think you have every right to not share sources in that case. The HTF fuente stuff is HTF for a reason and some joe off the street should not expect to get something just handed to him without earning it through reputation. If he called you some nice choice names, then he proved you right for not giving him the source!

02-17-2009, 04:33 PM	#3
RevSmoke Ain't Never Gonna Leave Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Todd Location: Northcentral woods of Wisconsin Posts: 6,881 Trading: (51)	Re: is it wrong to withold a source? That is kind of like fishing holes. I might take someone there, but I don't just give secrets away. I told one guy about a great quiet little stream. I get there one day, my day off no less - and there he is with three of his buddies. He gives me the, "Hey Todd, um, sorry to say this, but we were here first. You're going to need to find a different spot." We were talking later about some walleye fishing. He asked where I was fishing. I told him, "Oh, a local lake." "Which one?" he asks. I simply smiled and said, "Hey, I had to work to discover it myself, and I only get one day off a week. You have two. Do a little trial and error." He called me some names too. Just smile. __________________ Todd__ "Smoke what you like, and enjoy it!"

02-17-2009, 04:41 PM	#8
M1903A1 Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 1060 W. Addison Posts: 1,573 Trading: (4)	Re: is it wrong to withold a source? It's your source, you did the legwork to find it. And, a source is "unequal information", if you will...it's valuable because it's not common. Once others start to know it, it declines in value fast. Why should you be under any obligation to give it up to just anybody? That's like giving away money to a stranger. You worked for it, why should you just give it away? __________________ "It's the cigars that bring us together, but it's the people that cause us to stay."

02-17-2009, 04:41 PM	#9
Skywalker BABOTL Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dice Location: Galaxy Far Far Away Posts: 10,168 Trading: (18)	Re: is it wrong to withold a source? As long as you share them with me and no one else... I won't call you names!!! Seriously, your sources are yours to give or keep!!! Name calling is for the immature!!! __________________ Smoke what you like!!!

02-17-2009, 04:43 PM	#10
karmaz00 Habanos Join Date: Dec 2008 First Name: Jason Location: victoria Posts: 1,855 Trading: (1)	Re: is it wrong to withold a source? i would have no problem sharing sources....but some are better left unsaid __________________ Habanos Collector Since 2003

02-17-2009, 05:43 PM	#12
Mugen910 I <3 Huy Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Location Location: First Name Posts: 8,387 Trading: (106)	Re: is it wrong to withold a source? give up on NCs and keep CC sources private..problem solved __________________ I'm not antisocial, I just think people are stupid.

02-17-2009, 06:01 PM	#13
Tio Gato Uncle Kitty Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jeff Location: Casa Grande, AZ Posts: 2,079 Trading: (11)	Re: is it wrong to withold a source? If you're gonna post a good find people are gonna ask where. It's human nature. Don't worry if they call you names. Sticks and stones, heh? Sometimes I think of the Wizard of Oz. Remember the line "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain." Sometimes we are that man, other times it's someone calling us names, other times it's people questioning our motives, beliefs, etc. Like the internet, the "curtain" provides a place to hide behind until it is drawn gently back. Pay no attention to those that would get your blood pressure up. Life's too short. __________________ "You stink like cigars Uncle Kitty!" Said my Boo age 3. "Kid, take care of your family and the hell with anyone else" My Grandpa Bubba.

02-17-2009, 05:45 PM	#14
Cyanide Guest Posts: n/a	Re: is it wrong to withold a source? by the way....can you set me up with a good NC source? Mine isn't as good as yours. LOL

02-17-2009, 06:02 PM	#16
DPD6030 Shepard of the sheeple Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: The Mitten Posts: 7,166 Trading: (151)	Re: is it wrong to withold a source? If it is someone I don't know or others don't know and can't recommend them then no, keep it to yourself. If you know them personally then I say go ahead. If they screw things up for you then you lost your source. I've shared sources but everyone knows it anyways.

02-17-2009, 07:11 PM	#17
RottenZombie Guest Posts: n/a	Re: is it wrong to withold a source? No I don't think it's wrong.I think that it's personal choice,and if someone gets mad about it tough.

02-18-2009, 04:36 PM	#18
SeanGAR Crotchety Geezer Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Radford VA Posts: 911 Trading: (3)	Re: is it wrong to withold a source? I know this one guy ... used to be gurhka smoker ... he subtly asked in a post where one might get some of the forbidden fruit. Did I feel bad when I told him? No ... he seemed like a nice guy from my limited online interactions with him. So I told him .... www.papayas-r-us.com. Now his collection of papayas is truly impressive. His buying hasn't interfered with mine because he graduated to sites that I have not used: www.ripe-red-papayas.com, www.nuthin-but-papayas.net and www.aged-dunhill-payapas-for-all.com. But in your case I wouldn't sweat not telling somebody. They don't understand, well that's just too FB. __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?

02-17-2009, 07:15 PM	#19
nozero Guest Posts: n/a	Re: is it wrong to withold a source? Your source, your call.

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