Pioneer and Vizio to drop Plasma TVs

[AD720]

Bottom line is the today's consumer wants lots of inches for little bits of dollars and really isn't interested in the picture quality.

This fact is evident due to the people that buy the $750 42 inch at Sam's club and leave it in factory torch mode with every setting at 100% and say "Hey it's a 1080p look how good it looks." while it's being feed with a composite cable and the colors are so over saturated that the grass on the football field is blue.

I am not surprised in the least that companies are dropping Plasma in favor of LCD, they are cheaper to make, cheaper to transport and move faster of the shelves due to the lower price.

I don't want it to seem like I am knocking LCD at all, there are some that look absolutely amazing when they are set up right. I went with a Plasma but with one of today's higher end LCD's I would probably be happy too.

[JE3146]

Originally Posted by AD720

Bottom line is the today's consumer wants lots of inches for little bits of dollars and really isn't interested in the picture quality.

This fact is evident due to the people that buy the $750 42 inch at Sam's club and leave it in factory torch mode with every setting at 100% and say "Hey it's a 1080p look how good it looks." while it's being feed with a composite cable and the colors are so over saturated that the grass on the football field is blue.

I am not surprised in the least that companies are dropping Plasma in favor of LCD, they are cheaper to make, cheaper to transport and move faster of the shelves due to the lower price.

I don't want it to seem like I am knocking LCD at all, there are some that look absolutely amazing when they are set up right. I went with a Plasma but with one of today's higher end LCD's I would probably be happy too.

Lately Plasmas have been the bang for buck, not LCD's. Companies just like the higher profit margins of LCD's. Even though they're inferior when compared dollar for dollar, inch for inch in most A/B tests that I witnessed while shopping for TV's and helping people shop for TV's over the past few years.

Only thing LCD's offer is no burn in Which is non-existent anymore.

[AD720]

Originally Posted by JE3146

Lately Plasmas have been the bang for buck, not LCD's. Companies just like the higher profit margins of LCD's. Even though they're inferior when compared dollar for dollar, inch for inch in most A/B tests that I witnessed while shopping for TV's and helping people shop for TV's over the past few years.

Only thing LCD's offer is no burn in Which is non-existent anymore.

Bang for the buck maybe...but as far as out and out cheap I've yet to see a $399.99 plasma at the grocery store.

[RGD.]

Originally Posted by AD720

Bottom line is the today's consumer wants lots of inches for little bits of dollars and really isn't interested in the picture quality.

Yep - My neighbor bought this huge 56 or 60 inch LCD at 720dpi. He thinks it looks great.


Ron

[acruce]

Originally Posted by Don Fernando

there has been some talk in the Euro parliament about forbidding plasma as a plasma used 4 times more electricity then LCD.

I have a 60" Hitachi director series plasma and I haven't noticed using more electricity. I think the newer plasma's have come along way when it comes to the power issue.

Originally Posted by Don Fernando

there has been some talk in the Euro parliament about forbidding plasma as a plasma used 4 times more electricity then LCD.

That is what I understand the problem is. You know the nut job eco's are going to save the world one company at a time. Don't get me wrong I like the eco friendly tech, but they are going too far on a few things.

[Genetic Defect]

I place partial blame on Panasonic

[King James]

interesting when plasma has actually been catching up to LCD in the past few years. I think they have always had better color, but their screen life and that has been greatly improved. Weird.

[BORIStheBLADE]

Man this does suck! I was going to buy a plasma when my RPT goes.

I thought LCD's costed more to make?

[Genetic Defect]

Originally Posted by King James

interesting when plasma has actually been catching up to LCD in the past few years. I think they have always had better color, but their screen life and that has been greatly improved. Weird.

catching up

[King James]

Originally Posted by Big Vito

catching up

I prefer LCD (or have so far) because they had better screen lives and you can watch LCD in a room that has light. Plasma screen sucks if light is hitting it. And I believe LCD has (or at least had) a better viewing angle

[BORIStheBLADE]

Originally Posted by King James

I prefer LCD (or have so far) because they had better screen lives and you can watch LCD in a room that has light. Plasma screen sucks if light is hitting it. And I believe LCD has (or at least had) a better viewing angle

If all LCD's had the glossy screen finish that Plasmas do people would be saying that they suck too when light hits them too.

If all LCD's had better blacks and no motion blur LIKE all plasmas then I can see all the hype. but....

[Genetic Defect]

Originally Posted by BORIStheBLADE

If all LCD's had the glossy screen finish that Plasmas do people would be saying that they suck too when light hits them too.

If all LCD's had better blacks and no motion blur LIKE all plasmas then I can see all the hype. but....

Once I got. The plasma in the house I didn't notice anymore glare than a CRT tv. At the store you notice it more

[poker]

And I believe LCD has (or at least had) a better viewing angle

Ummm, not in my opinion. I have both a Pioneer Elite PRO-111FD (50" plasma) and a Pioneer PureVision Elite PRO940HD (42" plasma). The viewing angle is unreal. I can virtually view whatever is being displayed as long as I can see the screen.



In a nutshell heres a side by side comparison for plasma vs LCD by cnet:

http://reviews.cnet.com/4351-12658_7-6583301.html

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by Big Vito

killed is more like it

Perhaps killed themselves by pricing the Plasmas out of reach of the average consumer, Perry?

[Genetic Defect]

Lets not turn this into a LCD vs plasma thread

[BORIStheBLADE]

Originally Posted by Big Vito

Lets not turn this into a LCD vs plasma thread

Agreed, I actually own one. Its only because they don't make plasmas under 40" hahah

You can find great deals on plasma TVs if you spend the time to look. In which case if you're ready to drop a few hundred or thousand dollars on something you use hours a day everyday, why not do the research right?

Plasmas do produce the better picture. The general public just still believes they have horrible life span, high power consumption, and burn in, because it was true 10-15 years ago when it first came out.

I refuse to believe burn in is a problem, since I use my plasma as my computer monitor. Surfing the 'net all day hasn't made any burn ins yet.

[acruce]

Originally Posted by ChINaMaN1472

You can find great deals on plasma TVs if you spend the time to look. In which case if you're ready to drop a few hundred or thousand dollars on something you use hours a day everyday, why not do the research right?

Plasmas do produce the better picture. The general public just still believes they have horrible life span, high power consumption, and burn in, because it was true 10-15 years ago when it first came out.

I refuse to believe burn in is a problem, since I use my plasma as my computer monitor. Surfing the 'net all day hasn't made any burn ins yet.

My plasma has 100,000 hours until you get to the half life.Even then I don't the untrained eye could tell it is at it's half life.

Plasmas are really limited like 37" and up I think. LCDs are just cheaper to manufacturer if I'm not mistaken, so it's easy to drive the price (usually with quality).