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Old 12-01-2008, 05:50 AM   #1
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... I have read many comments on Amazon that the 3 cup seemed too small. So, I figured the 6 cup was the way to go. Although,

...(since I do not have a burr grinder and my current grinder does not make fine ground coffee) ...(
A six cup pot (for your first and only moka brewer) IS too big. For sure, get a one one-three- cup brewer to start. Amazon comments are not the true path to coffee perfection. There are dedicated coffeeheads here (with nothing to sell you) who care about you getting the best from your efforts.

Problem: if you're not grinding coffee with a burr grinder you will have better luck buying preground coffee. Don't let yourself down by trying to make moka with a whirley-blade. Irregular grind from a whirley blade lets water channel thru the puck creating bitter, under-extracted coffee. If you're not buying preground, grinder comes first.
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Old 12-01-2008, 06:40 AM   #2
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A six cup pot (for your first and only moka brewer) IS too big.
Let's not make judgments on how thermonuclear, scalp crawling with buzzy happiness some of us would prefer, now, Moo-san...
My only Moka right now is a 2 cupper, and it, (for me), is far too small.
Of course a 12-16 oz Moka Latte for me can be a "gulper" at times, and when the voices in my head argue a little too vehemently with the angel and devils on my shoulder, I may have had one too many. I was at Williams Sonoma yesterday getting a part for my ISI foamer and longingly looked at the incredibly overpriced coffee equipment. Lots of pretty stuff there, but they rarely get my hard earned dollar.


Do we have a "source listing" of places for procuring our "coffee things" at appropriate bottom feeder pricing?
Maybe we can even get a sticky. You "know people," right?
I know a guy or two.....
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Old 12-01-2008, 09:44 AM   #3
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Let's not make judgments on how thermonuclear, scalp crawling with buzzy happiness some of us would prefer, now, Moo-san...

Do we have a "source listing" of places for procuring our "coffee things" at appropriate bottom feeder pricing?
Maybe we can even get a sticky. You "know people," right?
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"scalp crawling... buzzy happiness..."?

Please to forgive my presumptiousness. Some people DO like the feel of invisible ticks, snakes and spiders crawling all over their bodies and I did not account for that. Each should explore toxicity in his or her own way. For those who have never experienced tachycardia and wild blood-pressure swings accompanied by sweats, uncontrollable trembling and distorted vision a six, eight or 10-cup mokapot would be a great opening salvo on an otherwise stable vascular system.



All I'm saying is, it's usually easier to get good results from a smaller pot than a larger one. And it's more useful (for most of us) to have two three-cuppers rather than one six-cupper. However, for those who want to go willy-nilly off into moka-universe with a big pot, have at it. I am sure many people cheerfully use a six-cup mokapot for their own daily brew. People like Bruce Banner. Heh heh heh.

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Old 12-01-2008, 07:20 AM   #4
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Default Re: Mokapots, Moka, or Stovetop Espresso, Period.

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A six cup pot (for your first and only moka brewer) IS too big. For sure, get a one one-three- cup brewer to start. Amazon comments are not the true path to coffee perfection. There are dedicated coffeeheads here (with nothing to sell you) who care about you getting the best from your efforts.

Problem: if you're not grinding coffee with a burr grinder you will have better luck buying preground coffee. Don't let yourself down by trying to make moka with a whirley-blade. Irregular grind from a whirley blade lets water channel thru the puck creating bitter, under-extracted coffee. If you're not buying preground, grinder comes first.
Well gave it another try this morning and I think Im getting it, FWIW when I cleaned the filter basket out there was a disk of grinds that came out as a unit in a puckish form. I'll give some preground stuff a try and see what happens Now to find a suitable grinder for no monies
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Well gave it another try this morning and I think Im getting it, FWIW when I cleaned the filter basket out there was a disk of grinds that came out as a unit in a puckish form. I'll give some preground stuff a try and see what happens Now to find a suitable grinder for no monies
... or try some fine-grind from grocery (Bustelo, for example) or local coffee retailer. The post-brew puck is a good thing. When they come out in one uniform rock-solid piece you will probably have just finished a smart looking brew.

I de-puck my filter by turning it upside down and running warm water into the filter tube. It'll fall out in one piece, showing a clear imprint of the filterbasket holes. You can do coffee technique archeology by breaking the puck apart and seeing if it was uniformly wetted though the interior. If you find dry spots inside then the extraction was incomplete.
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