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Wow. Would YOU like to party with Gina Carano?

Originally Posted by kayaker

Wow. Would YOU like to party with Gina Carano?

lol

yes

[RHNewfie]

Everyone ready for Saturday? So who's it gonna be? Randy or Brock?

Could go either way, but I'm hoping Randy schools 'em.

I have been wanting to post this thought for a while. I am nervous posting it, cause I do not want it to be interpreted wrong.

I believe MMA is becoming a legit sport, and for it to become a legit sport, we have to believe Randy is going to win.

I know Brock is big, but his record is 1-1 or 2-1. Either way he has not proven he is good enough to fight the champ. If Brock wins, then there is no legitimacy to the sport.

That means any big guy with any minimal skill--I say minimal because he has not fought or wrestled competitively in years--can hop into the ring and beat the champ.


Because of this, I believe the only way to believe that the sport is legit is to believe the champ will win.

Now, I know any guy, in a contact sport, can beat any guy on any given day---I saw rocky---but, we have to think that Randy has the best shot at winning because of his experience and being the current undefeated champ.

I am not trying to raise a rucus...I just think the sport is real and a guy cant get a title shot who has lost a fight in his 2 or 3 fight campaign to the belt just because he is big and strong.

Hope I did not offend anyone.

[kgoings]

Originally Posted by Tw3nty

I have been wanting to post this thought for a while. I am nervous posting it, cause I do not want it to be interpreted wrong.

I believe MMA is becoming a legit sport, and for it to become a legit sport, we have to believe Randy is going to win.

I know Brock is big, but his record is 1-1 or 2-1. Either way he has not proven he is good enough to fight the champ. If Brock wins, then there is no legitimacy to the sport.

That means any big guy with any minimal skill--I say minimal because he has not fought or wrestled competitively in years--can hop into the ring and beat the champ.


Because of this, I believe the only way to believe that the sport is legit is to believe the champ will win.

Now, I know any guy, in a contact sport, can beat any guy on any given day---I saw rocky---but, we have to think that Randy has the best shot at winning because of his experience and being the current undefeated champ.

I am not trying to raise a rucus...I just think the sport is real and a guy cant get a title shot who has lost a fight in his 2 or 3 fight campaign to the belt just because he is big and strong.

Hope I did not offend anyone.

No offense here. Lesner has showed some skill but I certainly dont think he deserves a shot this early. And I can't stand the whole 'Wrestling' persona he puts on when he wins, grabing the mike and yelling like he is on WWE.

[Ken]

Originally Posted by Tw3nty

I believe MMA is becoming a legit sport, and for it to become a legit sport, we have to believe Randy is going to win....That means any big guy with any minimal skill--

I understand why you could feel this way, though I totally disagree. I must also say that I would have liked to have seen Lesnar in another good fight or two before getting a title shot. He was getting matched up with Kongo and that would have been a good fight to see. And it would have been good to see him against another good sub guy.

Minimal skills* No one would walk into a ring with minimal skills and win a title fight much less a prelim. Look at Lesnar vs Mir. Lesnar was dominating and had good control until he left his leg open and got caught. That is what inexperience will do to you. Before this fight Lesnar had been putting in some serouis training. He didn't just go walking out of the WWE locker room and show up at the UFC and challenge someone. Big and strong can get you places, but not against high level fighters. Lesnar brings much more to the table. He brings an athleticism not seen in the heavyweight division along with superier wrestling skills which serves as a great base for his fighting ability. With his freakish size and strength, athletic ability, and hard training he is going to be a hand full for anyone.

So as far as putting the legitimacy of MMA on the line with this fight its going a bit overboard.

Originally Posted by Ken

I understand why you could feel this way, though I totally disagree. I must also say that I would have liked to have seen Lesnar in another good fight or two before getting a title shot. He was getting matched up with Kongo and that would have been a good fight to see. And it would have been good to see him against another good sub guy.

Minimal skills* No one would walk into a ring with minimal skills and win a title fight much less a prelim. Look at Lesnar vs Mir. Lesnar was dominating and had good control until he left his leg open and got caught. That is what inexperience will do to you. Before this fight Lesnar had been putting in some serouis training. He didn't just go walking out of the WWE locker room and show up at the UFC and challenge someone. Big and strong can get you places, but not against high level fighters. Lesnar brings much more to the table. He brings an athleticism not seen in the heavyweight division along with superier wrestling skills which serves as a great base for his fighting ability. With his freakish size and strength, athletic ability, and hard training he is going to be a hand full for anyone.

So as far as putting the legitimacy of MMA on the line with this fight its going a bit overboard.

I am in agreement for the most part, I just think there is a proving process, or I like to think there is, and Lesnar hasn't proven himself.

In a side note, there have certainly be exceptions in other 'legitimate' sports, Keven Garnett, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, who have not gone through the same process and still proven themselves ready and able to be at that level.

I don't want to more emphasis on this than there is already, the part that probably bugs me the most is that there are two heavyweight champs right now, and that seems to be taking the back seat. It seems that it would be right and fair to give Nogiera his shot before Lesnar gets his. Or make Lesnar fight Nogiera for the right to a shot at Randy. But of course, there is already a fight w/ Mir, and they need Randy to fight (he's not getting any younger!). Just seems a shame.

[NCRadioMan]

Originally Posted by Tw3nty

I have been wanting to post this thought for a while. I am nervous posting it, cause I do not want it to be interpreted wrong.

I believe MMA is becoming a legit sport, and for it to become a legit sport, we have to believe Randy is going to win.

I know Brock is big, but his record is 1-1 or 2-1. Either way he has not proven he is good enough to fight the champ. If Brock wins, then there is no legitimacy to the sport.

That means any big guy with any minimal skill--I say minimal because he has not fought or wrestled competitively in years--can hop into the ring and beat the champ.


Because of this, I believe the only way to believe that the sport is legit is to believe the champ will win.

Now, I know any guy, in a contact sport, can beat any guy on any given day---I saw rocky---but, we have to think that Randy has the best shot at winning because of his experience and being the current undefeated champ.

I am not trying to raise a rucus...I just think the sport is real and a guy cant get a title shot who has lost a fight in his 2 or 3 fight campaign to the belt just because he is big and strong.

Hope I did not offend anyone.

You have offended me greatly, Robert!

I understand why you feel that way as we have talked about this before but, if Lesnar wins would that legitimize him?

As Tom mentioned, you have to draw money or be one of Dana's "boys" to get anywhere in the UFC, for the most part.