Advice on iPhone versus Blackberry

[King James]

Originally Posted by Ahbroody

Fanboy? gd lord no one reads. I said it had a cool browser and some good apps. I said it was expensive and you paid for everything. I said Wimo has media features it doesnt and can play movies music etc. Have not heard fanboy since ATI v NVidia video card forums.

That would make two of us that don't read as Vic did not mention iPhone being for everyone, just pointed out an error in your statement which seemed to point to the fact that you lacked experience with iPhone compared to WiMo

Taking a step back having a pissing match over which company is better is useless as you stated. However, I really do not use an iPhone, I use a blackberry. I did have a WiMo phone and was not impressed, but that is my opinion. If which ever device you have works for you and has the features you like then who am I to say you are wrong. We are probably both making understatements about the capabilities of each OS, so I think agreeing to disagree as you suggested is the best solution.

However, nothing wrong with a discussion on each type of device

[Ahbroody]

Agreed Jim.

As to verizon I have not been with them for 4 years after they pulled some crap. I went with sprint cause of the plan i got and the piggyback with verizons network. I cant recommend anyone use verizon after my experience with them. Sprint had been issue free for 4 years. That said now they dont want to let me change phones unless I change plans. They are loosing money on my plan and they want them gone.

I would probablly go att over verizon cause of past experience. Would pick sprint over them all still do to piggyback agreement with verizon without all the vz bs.

[shilala]

I just cvhecked while I was out, and the Navigon gps doesn't speak the name of the street I'm supposed to turn on. It just tells me where and when.
The chick also told me "caution" when I was going over the speed limit, and the screen shows all the signs and where everything is.
It's so incredibly awesome it it made me cry.
Verizon sucks.
Just wanted to get that in there one more time before I pay my final bill with them.

[floydpink]

No changing my mind about who makes the best phone, but I have been really stuck on this gps app thing and found a cool article making the decision a little bit easier to steer right of Tomtom, approach Navigon with caution, and probably yield for a bit before buying.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...082100707.html

Originally Posted by floydpink

No changing my mind about who makes the best phone, but I have been really stuck on this gps app thing and found a cool article making the decision a little bit easier to steer right of Tomtom, approach Navigon with caution, and probably yield for a bit before buying.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...082100707.html

Interesting article, but I'd read it with caution since it only reviews two of the three apps available, and contains limited information

I'd point again to the ilounge article reviewing all three apps to anyone considering them.

As an aside the ilounge article contains an explanation of
amfeature Co-Pilot has that the others don't called "Local Search" Even stand alone gps units suffer from incomplete poi databases, which just goes with the territory. With CoPilot if you search for a
poi and it's not in the database, you can use local search which will connect to the Internet, find the poi info and complete your routing for you. Very cool
feature that no other unit has that I know of

ev

[floydpink]

Best I could figure out was I need to wait a bit and keep using my old Magellan gps in the car. Amazing that the box I paid $500 a couple years ago for, is now dinosaur in gps terms.

I seems like the smart phone gps software is on the cusp of really being good, if not by the top 3, but maybe someone not yet on the scene.

Once I figure out the best gps for the iPhone, I'm gonna buy a really cool motorcycle handlebar clip for the iPhone and I can have gps when I need it most; on the road to nowhere.

[shilala]

I have 900 minutes, unlimited data, and unlimited texting with at&t, and it's far cheaper than what I was paying at Verizon.
It's not apples to apples, but when I priced out the plan for the Storm, it was far more than at&t.
The main thing is that verizon nickled and dimed me to death, and with every new cool phone, they'd cripple most of the coolest features on the phone so they could charge me extra.
I hated the shiftlessness, lying, and downright greed.
My entire experience with at&t has been pleasant. Everything works far better than I ever imagined, and I'm happy.

Back to the gps app...
I've tried Navigon around town a few times now, and I could not be more pleased.
Actually, I'm thrilled. It is so much more user friendly than my last gps, does far more than I need it to do, picks up a signal almost immediately, and works better than I could have ever hoped. It was 70 bucks.
I'd have opted for tom tom, but I've used tom tom in the past, and quite frankly it doesn't compare to navigon on any level.
I'd recommend it to anyone in a minute, and I'm probably the second biggest dick on the planet when it comes to "insisting I get what I pay for.

I also don't do glowing reviews. I couldn't be more pleased with the iphone and I love it more every day.
I hated the Blackberry Storm before I even left the Verizon kiosk at the mall, and I'd really wanted one since I first read about it.
The only two rubs I have about the iphone are the inability to support flash and the inability to picture message. Those two things are supposed to be ironed out shortly.
Even if the flash issue is never resolved, I'll live.
I'd very much like to send a text message without having to email pics. I'd like to receive them without having to visit a website and type in a message ID and password that I can't possibly remember.
Once at&t supports the pic mailing from the texting app, I'll be very pleased.
As it stands, it sucks. And it's silly that it's not supported.

[aich75013]

Originally Posted by shilala

Back to the gps app...
I've tried Navigon around town a few times now, and I could not be more pleased.
Actually, I'm thrilled. It is so much more user friendly than my last gps, does far more than I need it to do, picks up a signal almost immediately, and works better than I could have ever hoped. It was 70 bucks.

Glad to hear it.
I bought it this morning and left it downloading on my pc. I will sync when I get home.
It was over 1gb, so I didn't try to do it from my phone. As it was, iTunes estimated 1 hour for download on my pc.

Now I need to check ebay for a car mount.

[shilala]

Originally Posted by aich75013

Glad to hear it.
I bought it this morning and left it downloading on my pc. I will sync when I get home.
It was over 1gb, so I didn't try to do it from my phone. As it was, iTunes estimated 1 hour for download on my pc.

Now I need to check ebay for a car mount.

Adrian, if you find a decent car mount, let me know, will ya?
I need one too. I ordered a double round of chargers house and car) and usb cables last week and already got them.
Never thought about the car mount though.
I'd like a half decent one. I had one before and it was really a cheap pos.

[aich75013]

Originally Posted by shilala

Adrian, if you find a decent car mount, let me know, will ya?
I need one too. I ordered a double round of chargers house and car) and usb cables last week and already got them.
Never thought about the car mount though.
I'd like a half decent one. I had one before and it was really a cheap pos.

I just ordered a super cheap one for 2.99 shipped from FleaBay. It'll probably be junk, but only $3 wasted.
I saw another that the phone actually clipped into, but I keep mine in an inCase hard case, so I doubt the clip version will work. and I don't want to have to take it out of the case to use the mount.
Saw one at WallyWorld today, but they wanted $25 for basically the same as the $3 one.
I'll let you know when I get it. It's supposed to be shipped from the US.

[shilala]

Originally Posted by aich75013

I just ordered a super cheap one for 2.99 shipped from FleaBay. It'll probably be junk, but only $3 wasted.
I saw another that the phone actually clipped into, but I keep mine in an inCase hard case, so I doubt the clip version will work. and I don't want to have to take it out of the case to use the mount.
Saw one at WallyWorld today, but they wanted $25 for basically the same as the $3 one.
I'll let you know when I get it. It's supposed to be shipped from the US.

Thanks brother.

[floydpink]

Originally Posted by shilala

Adrian, if you find a decent car mount, let me know, will ya?
I need one too. I ordered a double round of chargers house and car) and usb cables last week and already got them.
Never thought about the car mount though.
I'd like a half decent one. I had one before and it was really a cheap pos.

Google "in your face iphone holder"

That's the one I bought and love it.

Here is something I wrote up on another forum for someone who was asking about smart phones. It may help. The information is about 3 months old. The new Iphone 3GS allows cut and paste and stereo bluetooth...

I have had a Blackberry Storm and a Blackberry Bold. I have also had a number of WinMo phones like the HTC Touch, the HTC 8525 and a few others. I will be very hard pressed to use anything but a Blackberry in the future.

If you worried about getting the WinMo office utilities BB has their own version that comes with the phone and they work just as well.

The user interface on a BB is very friendly and easy to figure out. They are probably the most customizable phones on the market at this point. And with the advent of the BB App Store they are developing a large number of 3rd party applications.

The Iphone is a decent suggestion. There are a couple of issues that may or may not be a big deal to you. They are as follows...
-As of right now you can't send MMS. Meaning the only way you can share videos or pics is to email them you can't text them
-As of right now you can't cut and paste text
-You can't run more than one application on the phone at a time and there are no background apps. So for instance if you are using a program to give you directions somewhere and you want to send a text you have to completely exit out of the nav program, send your text and then start the nav program up all over again. BB allows you to leave open multiple programs and multi task.
-Iphone does not have A2DP therefor you can not get stereo bluetooth. So listening to movies or music via bluetooth is not an option.
-No push email. The Iphone will fetch your email every 15 mins at minimum but you will never get it instantly like on the BB.

The first two issues are supposed to be remedied this summer with the release of Iphone 3.0 I wouldn't hold my breath.

The Curve is a great phone. It is built well, very stable, and will do everything you want it to and more. Matter of fact it just outsold every other phone on the market this quarter. The only disappointing thing about the Curve on Sprint is the lack of 3G. It has Wifi but if your not in a hotspot your stuck surfing the internet as slow GPRS speeds.

If you can wait another month for a phone the Palm Pre will be debuting on Sprint and it's supposed to be one of the best phones available. I have read quite a few reports on it and it is going to be a great touch screen phone. The completly redid the entire Palm operating system and the have quite a few new innovations. I would atleast google it and see it if it interests you. It is going to me out end of May or early June.

Hope this helps...

My wife and I both have iPhones and we love them. The batteries don't last too long if messed with a lot during the day, but the phones are great!

[chenvt]

I went inside the ATT store yesterday looking to purchase.. played around the iphone for about 30 minutes, tried to find some help, couldn't get any so I walked out..

now I'm thinking about the LG enV Touch as a nice compromise.. more research to be conducted

no wifi on that phone, you'd be stuck with verizone and this from a review:

The recently released LG enV Touch is no smartphone like the iPhone or Palm Pre, but it certainly impresses as a high-end feature phone.

[chenvt]

Originally Posted by Resipsa

no wifi on that phone, you'd be stuck with verizone and this from a review:

The recently released LG enV Touch is no smartphone like the iPhone or Palm Pre, but it certainly impresses as a high-end feature phone.

Yeah aware of that.. but I was thinking maybe I don't really need a smartphone or anything like that.. and in my area, getting stuck with verizon which I've never had connection problems with isn't necessarily a bad thing.. Plus I couldn't get a consistent answer out of ATT what happens when I get sent out of country due to my job. Verizon lets me pay just a $10 a month maintenance fee.

[King James]

Originally Posted by chenvt

Yeah aware of that.. but I was thinking maybe I don't really need a smartphone or anything like that.. and in my area, getting stuck with verizon which I've never had connection problems with isn't necessarily a bad thing.. Plus I couldn't get a consistent answer out of ATT what happens when I get sent out of country due to my job. Verizon lets me pay just a $10 a month maintenance fee.

I thought Verizon (being CDMA) is actually worse to have if you are going out of the country versus GSM providers that use SIM cards

Originally Posted by King James

I thought Verizon (being CDMA) is actually worse to have if you are going out of the country versus GSM providers that use SIM cards

I think what he's talking about here Jim is you can pay a 10 per month fee, and it kind of puts your account on hold while you're out of the country and can't use it. That way you don't get hit with the full bill while you're gone. Seems I read something about that somewhere

[Ahbroody]

Originally Posted by chenvt

Yeah aware of that.. but I was thinking maybe I don't really need a smartphone or anything like that.. and in my area, getting stuck with verizon which I've never had connection problems with isn't necessarily a bad thing.. Plus I couldn't get a consistent answer out of ATT what happens when I get sent out of country due to my job. Verizon lets me pay just a $10 a month maintenance fee.

Dan another option you have if you go with verizon is to get what they call a world phone. Both sprint and verizon have these, but I dont know if sprint has the 10.00 option. They allow the use of a simcard in these phones when in europe or most of asia.
Some of the world phones on Verizon right now are the
HTC Ozone
Blackberry 8830 world and 9630 and I believe the storm.
Samsung saga and renown
Motorola a840 or z6c
Some more as well I believe, hope this helps.
Just go to the verizon site and type in sim or gsm