So, I thought about doing the cash for clunkers.

[shaggy]

we have a similar kind of system in canada......get a discount off a new car or donate it to charity and get a tax reciept. quite a few seem to be taking advantage of it judging by how many of them i pick up. we get them and cannot sell them at all, we arent even suppose to sell the engines out of them. they are now talking about giving a discount coupon for the purchase of a bicycle for trading in an old clunker.

this is our program
http://www.retireyourride.ca/home.aspx

[bobarian]

I think you will find that soon Mfg's will chip in with their own incentives. Saw a Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep ad this morning that said they are matching the govt program for those with a qualifying car and offering their own rebate for those who do not have a qualifier. Great news for those with a trader, good news for those who dont. If you are looking for a Chrysler product.

[alley00p]

Originally Posted by bobarian

I think you will find that soon Mfg's will chip in with their own incentives. Saw a Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep ad this morning that said they are matching the govt program for those with a qualifying car and offering their own rebate for those who do not have a qualifier. Great news for those with a trader, good news for those who dont. If you are looking for a Obama Motors product.

Bob, there is a reason for those ads. I have 2 Chrysler vehicles that are coming out of lease in a few months, and the dealers are begging me to take a new vehicle from them - their lots are full of 2009 models, and they are practically giving them away. But, here in the Motor City, no one is interested, especially the many thousands of laid-off and bought-out ex-Chrysler employees.

By the same token, the one company that didn't go begging for money from the Guvmint, Ford, has zero 2009's and are selling truckloads of 2010's that show up daily! I went Friday to look at a Ford Explorer; it's the same size as my Jeep Commander, and if I get something new, I'll probably go with Ford. And this is coming from someone who has been buying or leasing Chrysler vehicles exclusively since 1973!

This whole "Cash for Clunkers" deal is another Obama "Were doing our best to help out you poor people out there" program. If it was really meant to help anyone, the program would have been written to accept any vehicle that is 10 years old or older and doesn't meet the upcoming new CAFE standards!

Originally Posted by alley00p

By the same token, the one company that didn't go begging for money from the Guvmint, Ford, has zero 2009's and are selling truckloads of 2010's that show up daily!

Ah yes, Ford. Repeat after me...""Class action Lawsuits""

Remember The Firestone debacle back in the 90's? Over 250 people killed, hundreds injured, and Ford's response was to ""offer"" a $300 or $500 voucher towards a NEW Ford vehicle. That was nice of them.

Maybe the Plastic Manifolds?? The one that leaked and caused the engines to seize?? Ford was nice enough to send 1.8 million owners a check for $735. That's nice considering an engine replacement is in the THOUSANDS of dollars.

Or possibly the ""rollover risk"" of the ""Exploder""?? Once again, Ford was nice enough to offer the same $300 to $500 voucher (if you QUALIFIED for it) towards a new Ford vehicle.

Maybe the cruise control problem?? 3.6 million vehicles with a switch that could cause the engine to catch fire?? Then not having enough repair parts to FIX the problem??

Oh yeah, Ford is right there at the top of my list.

[bobarian]

Originally Posted by alley00p

Bob,

Charlie, I take offense at your attempt ot politicize my post. My intent was to show that the manufacturers will all come up with their own incentive programs for those who are looking to make a purchase. The choice of car manufacturer is personal and I would in no way direct anyone to choose one manufacturer over another.

The OP's question was whether or not you would be participating in this program. Political commentary is not necessary or permissible.

[alley00p]

Originally Posted by bobarian

Charlie, I take offense at your attempt ot politicize my post. My intent was to show that the manufacturers will all come up with their own incentive programs for those who are looking to make a purchase. The choice of car manufacturer is personal and I would in no way direct anyone to choose one manufacturer over another.

The OP's question was whether or not you would be participating in this program. Political commentary is not necessary or permissible.

Bob, you are completely correct, and I apologize for changing your words in the quote. I have no excuse for my conduct, and didn't realize the large amount of frustration I have for our conditions here locally would allow me to do something that offended another Inmate.

I have sent you a separate PM, and other than asking here that you accept my apology in the spirit that it was offered, I won't be discussing anything else here on this thread.

[bobarian]

Originally Posted by alley00p

Bob, you are completely correct, and I apologize for changing your words in the quote. I have no excuse for my conduct, and didn't realize the large amount of frustration I have for our conditions here locally would allow me to do something that offended another Inmate.

I have sent you a separate PM, and other than asking here that you accept my apology in the spirit that it was offered, I won't be discussing anything else here on this thread.

No worries Charlie. It must be difficult having a single industry affecting everyones lives in such a significant manner. Hopefully, things will change soon.

[KidRock]

Originally Posted by alley00p

Bob, there is a reason for those ads. I have 2 Chrysler vehicles that are coming out of lease in a few months, and the dealers are begging me to take a new vehicle from them - their lots are full of 2009 models, and they are practically giving them away. But, here in the Motor City, no one is interested, especially the many thousands of laid-off and bought-out ex-Chrysler employees.

By the same token, the one company that didn't go begging for money from the Guvmint, Ford, has zero 2009's and are selling truckloads of 2010's that show up daily! I went Friday to look at a Ford Explorer; it's the same size as my Jeep Commander, and if I get something new, I'll probably go with Ford. And this is coming from someone who has been buying or leasing Chrysler vehicles exclusively since 1973!

This whole "Cash for Clunkers" deal is another Obama "Were doing our best to help out you poor people out there" program. If it was really meant to help anyone, the program would have been written to accept any vehicle that is 10 years old or older and doesn't meet the upcoming new CAFE standards!

Charlie,

This is the best post on CA, I have ever seen. You are the man!!

[smokeyandthebandit05]

Well Im doing the cash for clunkers tonight. Im trading in my 93 explorer that currently gets 10 mpg for a 09 Subaru Impreza Outback Sport that gets 22mpg at the least.

[AD720]

Originally Posted by smokeyandthebandit05

Well Im doing the cash for clunkers tonight. Im trading in my 93 explorer that currently gets 10 mpg for a 09 Subaru Impreza Outback Sport that gets 22mpg at the least.

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Congrats, I love my Outback!

Originally Posted by smokeyandthebandit05

Well Im doing the cash for clunkers tonight. Im trading in my 93 explorer that currently gets 10 mpg for a 09 Subaru Impreza Outback Sport that gets 22mpg at the least.

Better hurry, sounds like its running out of money.

Different reports are buzzing around.

The first one today had it suspended, now its on again, and they are looking for more ways to fund it - spending more tax money they don't have

Chas

[n3uka]

Wanted to wait a couple weeks to trade in my 93 f150. Looks like the program will be gone by the time I am ready.

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by smokeyandthebandit05

Well Im doing the cash for clunkers tonight. Im trading in my 93 explorer that currently gets 10 mpg for a 09 Subaru Impreza Outback Sport that gets 22mpg at the least.

Unfortunately the Feds suspended the program as of midnight....hope they can sneak the paperwork past for you.

EDIT: Oops, looks like the Feds bailed it out with 2 Billion more today!

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=310651&src=110

[kydsid]

Originally Posted by icehog3

Unfortunately the Feds suspended the program as of midnight....hope they can sneak the paperwork past for you.

EDIT: Oops, looks like the Feds bailed it out with 2 Billion more today!

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=310651&src=110

Another billion here another billion there, no one will notice the difference.

[smokeyandthebandit05]

Well Ive had the car for a total of about 11 hours and my dad already managed to lock all 3 keys in the car

[CBI_2]

We all need to remember that this falls under the umbrella of one of the oldest lies around: " I'm from the government and I'm here to help you".

Run away from it as fast as you can.

When are people going to wake up and realize that the government usually does not fix anything they make the problems worse or create new ones. This program is just another attempt to bailout the bailout.