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[CigarDood]

Heavy-moderation is doing more harm than good and will continue to drive people away. That's actually a good lesson for us here at CA to remember.

[DBall]

Originally Posted by CigarDood

Heavy-moderation is doing more harm than good and will continue to drive people away. That's actually a good lesson for us here at CA to remember.

I don't think that's anything relevant to here... the team of 11 are the only mods and I'm pretty confident that they know what they are doing. Hell... more posts at poof have been closed/deleted in the last month than in the prior year and a half the 11 were running the show over there.

[Blueface]

WOW!!!
Ran off to see my favorite band, The Eagles, and I can't believe all that took place in between.

Dave and Tom banned.
I wonder if my access still works but won't dare go there.
Erased the link.

Hey, I got 4 points for posting a thread "No Drama/No Bashing" and it only contained freaking crickets.

After my response to the PM, can't imagine me being able to log back on at all.

[DBall]

Originally Posted by Blueface

Dave and Tom banned.

Not banned, but had their password scrambled (also their emails changed so they can't reset the passwords, then lied to about it)... easily one of the most cowardly things I have seen done on cigar boards. Seriously, if you're going to ban someone, why not just be a man and ban them?

This speaks volumes of the new regime over there.

Again, things like this never happened under the 11 (and I'd feel safe saying they never would).

[Da Klugs]

Smart? Nah... well maybe the other 10. The pertinent difference is that we are products of the culture, got mentored by those that came before us, served as volunteers to something we loved, and have those burdens to balance against the desires we all get as humans to lash out when things get dicey. Probably the most important distinction is.. we came for the cigars, stayed for the friendships.

What we are seeing there is pretty straightforward. The reason for rules is to strike a balance between individual freedom of speech and the greater good of the community. When it's a community with reasonable rules designed to serve the community, that everyone can understand, if not agree with, the implementation and enforcement of the rules is mostly done by the members of the community. When it's a one man for profit show and the rules become fluid, there is no firm footing or moral ground to stand on and you end up with a business vs a community. Puffer fish? How about Customers?

As is on display in this situation, no one owns this community. The URL that houses it is of minor importance and as you all have demonstrated, is easily replaced for a pittance financially if those who serve it administratively get to full of them(our)selves.

[floydpink]

For some reason, I see little Jonnie Capoots running around sticking his thumb in the leak and trying in a panic to patch the next one that is springing up next to it, all the while telling his admiring wife that he has it under control.

[taltos]

I would hate to think that anybody would write jc's advertisers and advise them on how well their advertising dollars are being spent.

[SeanGAR]

Well, I've decided to only go to that site on days when I'm wearing a brown shirt.
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I don't own a brown shirt.

Originally Posted by DBall

I don't think that's anything relevant to here...

Exactly. The owners here are whats called "smart".

Originally Posted by SeanGAR

Well, I've decided to only go to that site on days when I'm wearing a brown shirt.
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I don't own a brown shirt.



Exactly. The owners here are whats called "smart".

Does khaki count?

[poker]

Originally Posted by CigarDood

Heavy-moderation is doing more harm than good and will continue to drive people away. That's actually a good lesson for us here at CA to remember.

No worries. We have never really been heavy handed with moderating boards (unless we banned you before LOL).