A friend wants a cigar...

RevSmoke · 01-01-2009, 01:33 PM

1st: The regular cigar smoker who smokes only their own White Owls, or whatever.

I have a neighbor like this. After a few tries with some hand-rolled sticks, he stopped accepting them and I stopped offering.

2nd: This is also a regular cigar smoker.

He can take whatever he wants from my humidors - the only thing that is off limits are the sinlges which have been gifted to me, as these I must review.

3rd: This is the newbie to premium cigars.

I will question them about what they have tried and liked. I will also aske what "wish" cigar they have on their list. I will then make suggestions accordingly. Then I will show them what else is available and allow them to then choose whatever they like.

4th: This is the mooch. (the one who doesn't know the difference between a Backwoods and Bolivar) Have a guy on the fire department with me, we go fishing once in a while. We aren't best friends, but more than acquaintances. I have given him a few cigars, but he keeps pushing Backwoods on me as a great cigars - especially the flavored ones.

I wouldn't waste a Bolivar on this individual - and I mean waste, for this type would not appreciate it anyway. I do have a bunch of CFOs that I love, but they're a reasonable price point, so I don't mind someone not appreciating them.

My modus operandi is normally, mi casa su casa. That goes for everything. It has all been gifted to me by God, so it really isn't mine to begin with. I have no problem sharing.

MikeyC · 01-01-2009, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RevSmoke

I wouldn't waste a Bolivar on this individual - and I mean waste, for this type would not appreciate it anyway. I do have a bunch of CFOs that I love, but they're a reasonable price point, so I don't mind someone not appreciating them.

In my experience mooches DEFINITELY appreciate the finer things in life. They just don't want to pay for them ever.

RevSmoke · 01-01-2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeyC

In my experience mooches DEFINITELY appreciate the finer things in life. They just don't want to pay for them ever.

There may be some mooches like that. There was a lawyer in our Connecticut Cigar Club like that - we'd do a cigar dinner, and the cigars would be an exchange - everybody bringing 3 premium sticks and wrapping them up so nobody could see. Then, we'd put them in a box and everybody would grab a number from a hat. We'd then start with #1 and going through. The lawyer often bring WBs, a $1.00 stick gotten at a local shop - the owner one day saw three of them in a package someone drew, and knew that they lawyer had bought them. The owner took the cigars from the guy who got the 3 WBs, walked up to the lawyer, asked, "So, what did you get in the exchange?" He'd gotten a number of upper ends. The shop owner says, "You were so tight that you put these (holding up the WBs in his hand) in the blind exchange? You can have these." He took the better sticks and left the WBs. The lawyer complained and go no sympathy - in fact, almost got punched.

Now, this is not a commentary on lawyers, but on this particular lawyer.

MikeyC · 01-01-2009, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RevSmoke

There may be some mooches like that. There was a lawyer in our Connecticut Cigar Club like that - we'd do a cigar dinner, and the cigars would be an exchange - everybody bringing 3 premium sticks and wrapping them up so nobody could see. Then, we'd put them in a box and everybody would grab a number from a hat. We'd then start with #1 and going through. The lawyer often bring WBs, a $1.00 stick gotten at a local shop - the owner one day saw three of them in a package someone drew, and knew that they lawyer had bought them. The owner took the cigars from the guy who got the 3 WBs, walked up to the lawyer, asked, "So, what did you get in the exchange?" He'd gotten a number of upper ends. The shop owner says, "You were so tight that you put these (holding up the WBs in his hand) in the blind exchange? You can have these." He took the better sticks and left the WBs. The lawyer complained and go no sympathy - in fact, almost got punched.

Now, this is not a commentary on lawyers, but on this particular lawyer.

Sounds like it's irrelevent that he is a lawyer. What is relevent is that he is a greedy, selfish pig.

Just reading this story makes me mad.

01-01-2009, 03:26 PM

Aside from gifts and I'd explain why on those, I'd let them pick their own and I'd answer any questions they asked. Who am I to decide what they will or won't appreciate?

I've never had to deal with cigar mooches, so I'll cross that bridge if or when I get there. I never liked mooches when I smoked cigarettes, especially the regular repeat offenders. But more often than not, I gave them one anyway.

macpappy · 01-01-2009, 08:20 PM

I keep a humidor with a variety of singles just for cases like the four you mention. As I only keep 10 - 15 in this humidor and wind up replacing them about every 2 weeks I don't worry too much about the flavors blending.
With #1, I tell him to take a look and see if there is anything he would like to try but that I don't smoke his brand.

With #2, I tell him to take a look and to let me know if he doesn't see anything he likes. If this happens then I tell him what his higher end options are and I pull it out of my cooler.

With #3, the same unless I have something in mind that I think he would like.

#4, I just let them pick something from the humidor. It's only a cigar and I remember when I first started smoking cigars back in the 70s and I enjoyed the original Backwoods.

RevSmoke · 01-01-2009, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeyC

Sounds like it's irrelevent that he is a lawyer. What is relevent is that he is a greedy, selfish pig.

Just reading this story makes me mad.

Don't get mad. You're right, he's greedy. Feel sorry for him.

MikeyC · 01-01-2009, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RevSmoke

Don't get mad. You're right, he's greedy. Feel sorry for him.

You're 100% right. I do feel bad for him because acting like that is no way to go through life.

Mugen910 · 01-01-2009, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeyC

In my experience mooches DEFINITELY appreciate the finer things in life. They just don't want to pay for them ever.

i do not like moochers.

i have a humi of single NCs i prob wont get around to ever so i let non cigar guys go through that. If they are cigar guys i will pick a NC or CC for them depending on my mood.
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01-01-2009, 03:26 PM	#5
nozero Guest Posts: n/a	Re: A friend wants a cigar... Aside from gifts and I'd explain why on those, I'd let them pick their own and I'd answer any questions they asked. Who am I to decide what they will or won't appreciate? I've never had to deal with cigar mooches, so I'll cross that bridge if or when I get there. I never liked mooches when I smoked cigarettes, especially the regular repeat offenders. But more often than not, I gave them one anyway.

01-01-2009, 08:20 PM	#6
macpappy Rider on the storm. Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Slidell, LA Posts: 851 Trading: (0)	Re: A friend wants a cigar... I keep a humidor with a variety of singles just for cases like the four you mention. As I only keep 10 - 15 in this humidor and wind up replacing them about every 2 weeks I don't worry too much about the flavors blending. With #1, I tell him to take a look and see if there is anything he would like to try but that I don't smoke his brand. With #2, I tell him to take a look and to let me know if he doesn't see anything he likes. If this happens then I tell him what his higher end options are and I pull it out of my cooler. With #3, the same unless I have something in mind that I think he would like. #4, I just let them pick something from the humidor. It's only a cigar and I remember when I first started smoking cigars back in the 70s and I enjoyed the original Backwoods. __________________ WARNING: I am a Southern White Male. I have a brain and I know how to use it.

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01-01-2009, 01:33 PM	#1
RevSmoke Ain't Never Gonna Leave Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Todd Location: Northcentral woods of Wisconsin Posts: 6,893 Trading: (51)	Re: A friend wants a cigar... *1st:* The regular cigar smoker who smokes only their own White Owls, or whatever. I have a neighbor like this. After a few tries with some hand-rolled sticks, he stopped accepting them and I stopped offering. *2nd:* This is also a regular cigar smoker. He can take whatever he wants from my humidors - the only thing that is off limits are the sinlges which have been gifted to me, as these I must review. *3rd:* This is the newbie to premium cigars. I will question them about what they have tried and liked. I will also aske what "wish" cigar they have on their list. I will then make suggestions accordingly. Then I will show them what else is available and allow them to then choose whatever they like. *4th:* This is the mooch. (the one who doesn't know the difference between a Backwoods and Bolivar) Have a guy on the fire department with me, we go fishing once in a while. We aren't best friends, but more than acquaintances. I have given him a few cigars, but he keeps pushing Backwoods on me as a great cigars - especially the flavored ones. I wouldn't waste a Bolivar on this individual - and I mean waste, for this type would not appreciate it anyway. I do have a bunch of CFOs that I love, but they're a reasonable price point, so I don't mind someone not appreciating them. My modus operandi is normally, mi casa su casa. That goes for everything. It has all been gifted to me by God, so it really isn't mine to begin with. I have no problem sharing. __________________ Todd__ "Smoke what you like, and enjoy it!"