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Old 03-02-2011, 11:23 AM   #1
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i'm not looking for cheap...i am looking for quality made in the USA products...

and just for all you xikar fans out there...all of their stuff is manufactured in asia...not the US....

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Old 03-02-2011, 01:27 PM   #2
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i'm not looking for cheap...i am looking for quality made in the USA products...

and just for all you xikar fans out there...all of their stuff is manufactured in asia...not the US....
Is that statement meant as a criticism of the company or its product?

I'm a Palio fan, too, but not because it's made int he USA--it's because 1) it's the best cutter I've used; and 2) it's owned by a friend.

I'll be honest and say that I don't really care too much where items are manufactured. My car is British owned by an Indian. My shoes are Italian. My cigars are Cuban. My electronics are from Asian. My watch is Swiss. My whiskeys are Irish and Scottish. My beers and wines are from all over. There are some great products made in the USA and there are great products made elsewhere. I'm much more concerned with getting a quality product (naturally at a reasonable price) than I am with where it's made
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Is that statement meant as a criticism of the company or its product?

I'm a Palio fan, too, but not because it's made int he USA--it's because 1) it's the best cutter I've used; and 2) it's owned by a friend.

I'll be honest and say that I don't really care too much where items are manufactured. My car is British owned by an Indian. My shoes are Italian. My cigars are Cuban. My electronics are from Asian. My watch is Swiss. My whiskeys are Irish and Scottish. My beers and wines are from all over. There are some great products made in the USA and there are great products made elsewhere. I'm much more concerned with getting a quality product (naturally at a reasonable price) than I am with where it's made
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Car = Swedish
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Electronics = Asia
Shirt on my back = Viet Nam
Coffee = down the street
Travel mug = China
Undies = Not going to the bathroom to check...
I think the memory in my cell is from Korea..
As long as we are sharing...

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Coffee = don't drink it
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Old 03-02-2011, 01:33 PM   #5
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I see where the OP is coming from. He would very much like to find a quality scissor-style cigar cutter that is US made. For many, cutter quality is number 1. For this person at this time, quality and US made are equally important. His choice. I do not think that he was impinging the quality of other cutters, US made or not. That's my opinion of the original post and the thread.

I know of no such animal and even checked some of the top US made knife sites.
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Old 03-02-2011, 01:37 PM   #6
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I see where the OP is coming from. He would very much like to find a quality scissor-style cigar cutter that is US made. For many, cutter quality is number 1. For this person at this time, quality and US made are equally important. His choice. I do not think that he was impinging the quality of other cutters, US made or not. That's my opinion of the original post and the thread.
That's what I construe. I think everything else is just off topic.
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For many, cutter quality is number 1. For this person at this time, quality and US made are equally important. His choice.
True that.

I just took the xikar fan / Asia thing as a dig at items manufactured abroad (or at least in Asia), which I don't think is necessarily true and will unnecessarily limit the number of cigar accessories from which one (including someone else who might be reading this thread without the experience of using these various cutters) has to choose--and that's just sad, because we all need as many cigar toys as humanly possible

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Me either. I currently carry a Benchmade (made in the USA) knife every day and have always been interested to see them or some of the other various knife manucturers (including the truly high-end USA and foreign ones) put out some cutters.
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Old 03-02-2011, 04:23 PM   #8
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Me either. I currently carry a Benchmade (made in the USA) knife every day and have always been interested to see them or some of the other various knife manucturers (including the truly high-end USA and foreign ones) put out some cutters.
You might try to get a custom knifemaker that would produce a cigar cutter. I would be willing to bet if you put in a message to Mike Snody he might undertake such project. He's always making very crazy things that look very cool. (slingshots that crack skulls, money clips, knives of all kinds) Of course I would probably try to come at him with a list of like 25-50 buyers.

Or maybe another knifemaker would do something like this. Especially if they were to engrave CA into it I wonder how many people here would purchase one?
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Old 03-02-2011, 04:30 PM   #9
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appreciate the comment. not looking for one-off custom-made. looking to source quantity to resell. i am in the import/export business...
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appreciate the comment. not looking for one-off custom-made. looking to source quantity to resell. i am in the import/export business...
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appreciate the comment. not looking for one-off custom-made. looking to source quantity to resell. i am in the import/export business...
It was mostly to Croatan as I figured you weren't looking for a high(er) priced custom.
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appreciate the comment. not looking for one-off custom-made. looking to source quantity to resell. i am in the import/export business...
Who are you looking to sell the cutters to, just out of curiosity?
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My car is British owned by an Indian.
And I got to ride in it one day, and it was boss.

And for the record, I also read all the responses and thought you went out of your way to
speak delicately about everything, and only erred a bit in hoping to head off the logical next
step in cutter talk.
I think that is where someone might have read it 'wrong'. But they did in fact read it wrong.
I think they look down and see 6-8 posts and that very item colors their impressions of the
question being asked. A lot of people come in and get rowdy from post 1 and never think to
get acquainted first, and that likely led to some perceived tone that was not really there.
Oh Ceee-A we stand on guard for thee, I guess.

Well...til he got all "NO, YOU are" and left the thread, likely forever, lol.

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i'm not looking for cheap...i am looking for quality made in the USA products...

and just for all you xikar fans out there...all of their stuff is manufactured in asia...not the US....
Maybe that explains why my "thought it was made in the U.S.A." Xicar cutter pinches the crap out of me sometimes and I don't really like it.

Hope you will report back in on what if anything you find made in the U.S.
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my comment regarding xikars...is because many people have referred me to xikar citing that they are made in the USA. at one point in time, yes, xikars were manufactured in the US, but like many cigar accessroy maufacturers, they have started producing them in asia. many people still think xikar is US-made including some very high end shoppes in DFW where i am. i am surprised at how many people still believe that xikars are US-made. it's not a swipe at xikar, i think they make some very nice cutters. it's not a swipe at asian-made cutters. i've seen some very nice prometheus cutters that use japanese surgical steel - made in s.korea. and i've seen davidoff cutters with the same german steel that is still used in top-of-the-line henkel knives. i will admit that i tend to think less of xikars because they are using cheap china steel. but i was merely trying to head off any referrals to xikar because i've already done my homework there. for my purposes, i am trying to source a good US made cutter, especially the scissor type. i've been at it for 3 weeks and...nothing

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my comment regarding xikars...is because many people have referred me to xikar citing that they are made in the USA. at one point in time, yes, xikars were manufactured in the US, but like many cigar accessroy maufacturers, they have started producing them in asia. many people still think xikar is US-made including some very high end shoppes in DFW where i am. i am surprised at how many people still believe that xikars are US-made. it's not a swipe at xikar, i think they make some very nice cutters. it's not a swipe at asian-made cutters. i've seen some very nice prometheus cutters that use japanese surgical steel - made in s.korea. and i've seen davidoff cutters with the same german steel that is still used in top-of-the-line henkel knives. i will admit that i tend to think less of xikars because they are using cheap china steel. but i was merely trying to head off any referrals to xikar because i've already done my homework there. for my purposes, i am trying to source a good US made cutter, especially the scissor type. i've been at it for 3 weeks and...nothing
Is that when they changed the design of the xikar multi-tool cutter, as well? I know some guys who swear by the old ones but hate the new ones.

Anyway, good luck with your search. Hope you find what you're looking for.

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my comment regarding xikars...is because many people have referred me to xikar citing that they are made in the USA. at one point in time, yes, xikars were manufactured in the US, but like many cigar accessroy maufacturers, they have started producing them in asia. many people still think xikar is US-made including some very high end shoppes in DFW where i am. i am surprised at how many people still believe that xikars are US-made. it's not a swipe at xikar, i think they make some very nice cutters. it's not a swipe at asian-made cutters. i've seen some very nice prometheus cutters that use japanese surgical steel - made in s.korea. and i've seen davidoff cutters with the same german steel that is still used in top-of-the-line henkel knives. i will admit that i tend to think less of xikars because they are using cheap china steel. but i was merely trying to head off any referrals to xikar because i've already done my homework there. for my purposes, i am trying to source a good US made cutter, especially the scissor type. i've been at it for 3 weeks and...nothing
you should read the autumn 2010 issue of ECCJ where they interview the production managers of the Wolfertz factory in Solingen germany where even the standard plastic handled xikars are still made. so before you go saying whats what please check your facts. I believe it is the next line up that is chinese assembled and has chinese handles but still german blades which by trade law makes it made in china. Mine has german blades and dead mammoth for a handle (made in kentucky) don't know where it was assembled. global market at work
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you should read the autumn 2010 issue of ECCJ where they interview the production managers of the Wolfertz factory in Solingen germany where even the standard plastic handled xikars are still made. so before you go saying whats what please check your facts. I believe it is the next line up that is chinese assembled and has chinese handles but still german blades which by trade law makes it made in china. Mine has german blades and dead mammoth for a handle (made in kentucky) don't know where it was assembled. global market at work
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:324 -0600
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Looks like he did!

Good luck with your search. If you do manage to find something, post it up. Many guys are always looking for high quality US made goods.

Or, you could try contacting Marc (OpusX) from Palio, and see if they could produce something in quantity for you... I guess it would depend on the quantity, but its worth a shot.
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