Albany Firebirds offer Michael Vick a contract

MedicCook · 04-28-2009, 04:39 PM

The Albany Firebirds have offered Michale Vick a contract.

http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories...storyID=794745

WildBlueSooner · 04-28-2009, 04:41 PM

I like that the contract requires him to donate to the Humane Society!

Whee · 04-28-2009, 04:42 PM

Meh, arenafootball2. That's like Go-Karts vs Nascar.

MedicCook · 04-28-2009, 04:46 PM

The Firebirds are desperate. They are on the verge of folding and need something big to save the franchise.

blugill · 04-28-2009, 04:49 PM

No NFL team will want that baggage. There will be protests, season ticket holders turn in their tickets, and lots of bad publicity.

Vick is done and this might be as good as he will be able to do. It isn't like he was that great of a QB anyway, a couple of years of prison really haven't honed his skills.

white_s2k · 04-28-2009, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by blugill

No NFL team will want that baggage. There will be protests, season ticket holders turn in their tickets, and lots of bad publicity.

Vick is done and this might be as good as he will be able to do. It isn't like he was that great of a QB anyway, a couple of years of prison really haven't honed his skills.

Unfortunately, that is what our society has turned into. What is the point of receiving and completing a punishment for breaking a law in this society if once you have completed the punishment you still are not allowed to live a productive and normal life. Our system is set up to punish you for the rest of your life if you have ever even been suspected of committing a crime. It is actually pretty sad if you think about it.

blugill · 04-28-2009, 04:58 PM

If the NFL reinstates him then it is open season for the teams to see who wants to take a chance on him.
Punishment, forgiveness, and apologies aside it is still a business and I really doubt anyone would want to invest seven figures into an average QB with declining skills. His shelf life was limited and now it is fast approaching the expiration date.

MedicCook · 04-28-2009, 05:00 PM

It is going to be like when Mike Tyson got out of prison. He was never the same fighter losing those prime years from his career.

white_s2k · 04-28-2009, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by blugill

If the NFL reinstates him then it is open season for the teams to see who wants to take a chance on him.
Punishment, forgiveness, and apologies aside it is still a business and I really doubt anyone would want to invest seven figures into an average QB with declining skills. His shelf life was limited and now it is fast approaching the expiration date.

If he can prove himself on the field, I see no reason why a NFL team shouldn't sign him. The opinion of him being "average" is debatable, but I think the guy has paid his dues and should be given a second chance if his talent is seen as worth it to a franchise.

WildBlueSooner · 04-28-2009, 05:02 PM

I believe that some NFL team will take him. Will he be anything like the old Vick? I say 50/50. Would I want him? Hell no!

Whee · 04-28-2009, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook

The Firebirds are desperate. They are on the verge of folding and need something big to save the franchise.

Didn't they fold up once before? I thought the AFL franchise moved to Indiana?

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Originally Posted by WildBlueSooner

I believe that some NFL team will take him. Will he be anything like the old Vick? I say 50/50. Would I want him? Hell no!

Somebody will take him. PacMan Jones. Tank Johnson. An owner will take him for the attention it will generate.

MedicCook · 04-28-2009, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by illinoishoosier

Didn't they fold up once before? I thought the AFL franchise moved to Indiana?

Albany had an AFL team that left and the next year they started with AF2. They went back to the Firebirds name for this season to try and save the franchise. At 0-5 it is not working.

blugill · 04-28-2009, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by white_s2k

If he can prove himself on the field, I see no reason why a NFL team shouldn't sign him. The opinion of him being "average" is debatable, but I think the guy has paid his dues and should be given a second chance if his talent is seen as worth it to a franchise.

Vick had 71 TDs, 52 INTs, and a 53.8 completion rate over his career with 20 TDs being his best and he threw 13 INTs in his last season. I think average sums it up.

white_s2k · 04-28-2009, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by blugill

Vick had 71 TDs, 52 INTs, and a 53.8 completion rate over his career with 20 TDs being his best and he threw 13 INTs in his last season. I think average sums it up.

Since when has Vick ever been known as a great passer? He made big plays with his legs not his arm. He was like that his entire NFL career.. nothing new.

WildBlueSooner · 04-28-2009, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by blugill

Vick had 71 TDs, 52 INTs, and a 53.8 completion rate over his career with 20 TDs being his best and he threw 13 INTs in his last season. I think average sums it up.

True but I don't think it is his passing numbers that people like about him. Are his passing numbers average..yes. The guy can make plays on the ground...a scrambling machine!

chippewastud79 · 04-28-2009, 05:42 PM

Michael Vick, if reinstated, will get a chance in the NFL and there are likely a number of teams who will give him that shot, unless he comes out of prison at 300lbs and can't hold onto a football, which it doesn't sound like. You can't teach the athletic skill he has and he has paid his debt to society and will have this over his head for the rest of his career. For 700K (or so) someone will let him play, he will be the fastest #3 QB in the league. Even if it doesn't happen before training camp, look for a team to pick him up once QB's start getting hurt.

blugill · 04-28-2009, 05:42 PM

In his last season he had a grand total of 2 rushing TDs and 9 fumbles.
His career rushing stats are 21 TDs and 55 fumbles....

GreekGodX · 04-28-2009, 05:50 PM

Someone will take a chance. They won't have to pay him big money. Just the veterans minimum. I just doubt he will be able to play QB anywhere. Maybe a switch to another position will help get more teams interested.

chippewastud79 · 04-28-2009, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by blugill

In his last season he had a grand total of 2 rushing TDs and 9 fumbles.
His career rushing stats are 21 TDs and 55 fumbles....

21 TD's and 19 fumbles for his rushing career

And 2 TD's with 4 fumbles and rushed for over 1000 yards in 2006

27 lost fumbles in 74 career games

According to NFL.com

blugill · 04-28-2009, 05:52 PM

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...Mi00.htm?redir

04-28-2009, 04:39 PM	#1
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WildBlueSooner I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Feb 2009 First Name: James Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 3,322 Trading: (19)	Re: Albany Firebirds offer Michael Vick a contract I like that the contract requires him to donate to the Humane Society! __________________ "To dilute the will to win is to destroy the purpose of the game. There is no substitute for victory"-- Douglas MacArthur

04-28-2009, 04:46 PM	#4
MedicCook Mila smoked my cigar Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Ryan Location: Schaghticoke, NY Posts: 10,946 Trading: (7)	Re: Albany Firebirds offer Michael Vick a contract The Firebirds are desperate. They are on the verge of folding and need something big to save the franchise. __________________ 27 World Series Championship's "If your wife doesn't like the aroma of your cigar, change your wife.", Zino Davidoff

04-28-2009, 04:49 PM	#5
blugill Feeling at Home Join Date: Dec 2008 First Name: Andy Location: Enid, Oklahoma Posts: 867 Trading: (10)	Re: Albany Firebirds offer Michael Vick a contract No NFL team will want that baggage. There will be protests, season ticket holders turn in their tickets, and lots of bad publicity. Vick is done and this might be as good as he will be able to do. It isn't like he was that great of a QB anyway, a couple of years of prison really haven't honed his skills.

04-28-2009, 04:58 PM	#7
blugill Feeling at Home Join Date: Dec 2008 First Name: Andy Location: Enid, Oklahoma Posts: 867 Trading: (10)	Re: Albany Firebirds offer Michael Vick a contract If the NFL reinstates him then it is open season for the teams to see who wants to take a chance on him. Punishment, forgiveness, and apologies aside it is still a business and I really doubt anyone would want to invest seven figures into an average QB with declining skills. His shelf life was limited and now it is fast approaching the expiration date.

04-28-2009, 04:42 PM	#3
Whee formerly illinoishoosier Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Sean Location: Bishopville, SC Posts: 3,591 Trading: (17)	Re: Albany Firebirds offer Michael Vick a contract Meh, arenafootball2. That's like Go-Karts vs Nascar. __________________ "Maybe I'm wrong, when they tell me they're right…..naaaaahhhhhh, I'm an asshooooooleeee"--Denis Leary

04-28-2009, 05:00 PM	#8
MedicCook Mila smoked my cigar Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Ryan Location: Schaghticoke, NY Posts: 10,946 Trading: (7)	Re: Albany Firebirds offer Michael Vick a contract It is going to be like when Mike Tyson got out of prison. He was never the same fighter losing those prime years from his career. __________________ 27 World Series Championship's "If your wife doesn't like the aroma of your cigar, change your wife.", Zino Davidoff

04-28-2009, 05:02 PM	#10
WildBlueSooner I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Feb 2009 First Name: James Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 3,322 Trading: (19)	Re: Albany Firebirds offer Michael Vick a contract I believe that some NFL team will take him. Will he be anything like the old Vick? I say 50/50. Would I want him? Hell no! __________________ "To dilute the will to win is to destroy the purpose of the game. There is no substitute for victory"-- Douglas MacArthur

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chippewastud79 Fatter than you! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Larry Location: A little place called home. Posts: 5,397 Trading: (44)	Re: Albany Firebirds offer Michael Vick a contract Michael Vick, if reinstated, will get a chance in the NFL and there are likely a number of teams who will give him that shot, unless he comes out of prison at 300lbs and can't hold onto a football, which it doesn't sound like. You can't teach the athletic skill he has and he has paid his debt to society and will have this over his head for the rest of his career. For 700K (or so) someone will let him play, he will be the fastest #3 QB in the league. Even if it doesn't happen before training camp, look for a team to pick him up once QB's start getting hurt. __________________ If we weren't supposed to eat animals, then how come they're made of meat? You can never have too many cigars, they are like an investment in good times.

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GreekGodX Opa!! Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Christos Location: 7 Line Posts: 4,893 Trading: (82)	Re: Albany Firebirds offer Michael Vick a contract Someone will take a chance. They won't have to pay him big money. Just the veterans minimum. I just doubt he will be able to play QB anywhere. Maybe a switch to another position will help get more teams interested. __________________ "If I give a businessman 10,000 francs, what is that to him, he is rich. But if I give him a Cohiba cigar, that is style."-Hotel Rwanda

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