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With so many different makers and styles out there if you had to pick only one to give as the very best there is what would it be? And is this from your first hand knowledge or by reputation?
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EMPEROR TOMPKINS
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Kristoff by first hand knowledge, I haven't had a bad one yet, but I am a noob so I look forward to reading this thread.
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EMPEROR TOMPKINS
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The Kristiana for me. Not a full flavor more of a mild to medium but just a fantastic smoke
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Mmmmmmmm ribs.... |
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![]() ![]() The current tobacco being used by Armando Ramos to construct the PINAR line of Pre Embargo Cuban Cigars came from the Grossman Estate in Tampa. The Grossman family was involved in the cigar business in Tampa when everything being rolled was Cuban tobacco. The Sr. Grossman died almost 25 years ago and a large quantity of pre embargo Cuban tobacco was tied up in Probate while his estate was being settled. One of his sons finally inherited the tobacco and realizing the value, decided to hold on to it. The tobacco had been in a 70F/70% environment since it was imported in '56, '58'and '60. In the late stages of the Clinton administration, rumors were that the Embargo would be lifted as one of Clinton's last acts as President. The Grossman son, if this happened, realized that his holdings would be be greatly devalued. He sold his tobacco to the Puros International de Armando Ramos, Inc. (PINAR) in 1999. The tobacco is sent to Equador to be rolled and blended and then shipped back to the US. It has gone through Customs 3 times and is well documented to be authentic. The P3000 Pinar After painstakingly sorting and classifying every single leaf, we combined several of the Cuban tobaccos (with an emphasis on Ligero for classic Cuban strength, despite the tobaccos age). The result, rolled 100% from Cuban leaf (filler, binder & wrapper) is the quintessential Cuban cigar. The flavor is deep, rich and complex, but with over 40 years of aging on the tobacco, it is also incredibly smooth and easy smoking. Compared to the original, crude PINARs, a richer, stronger Cuban blend, better Cuban tobacco, more Cuban flavor. P3000 Edicion Limitado Maduro Of course, 45 years ago, there was no such thing as Cuban Maduro. So there is no processed, cooked or colored PINAR maduro. However, when you take a 300lb. bale of Cuban wrapper tobacco and let it rest comfortably for 45 years, some of he oils migrate to the center of the bale. A degree of low-level fermentation even continues there. We hand-select wrapper leaf from the very center of each bale, dark and fairly dripping with flavorful oils, and use that as the wrapper for the E.L. Maduros. The flavor is a little denser, a little milder and a little sweeter, but still, a pure 100% Cuban Pinar. P3000 el FEROZ "the Ferocious One" Amidst the 46,000 pounds of tobacco that made up the Grossman purchase was one shipment of extremely spicy Cuban wrapper. This tobacco was shipped in barrels rather than bales (not uncommon at the time). As far as we can tell, these were actually sherry casks. The incredible spice of this wrapper was perfectly mellowed by the subtle hint of oak and sherry imparted by the barrels over nearly 50 years. EL FEROZ combines this wrapper with a double dose of pre-embargo ligero, to create the true powerhouse of the P3000 line-up. P3000 Cuban Criollo Long before corojo leaf from Honduras became all the rage; long before Corojo became the Cuban wrapper of choice in the 1960's, classic criollo was the mainstay of Cuban wrapper, for nearly 500 years. Nearly ALL cigar tobaccos grown in the Americas are derivative of that particular seed. About a quarter of the wrapper in the Grossman purchase was a rich, simple Cuban Criollo. Slightly lighter in color than the other PINAR wrappers, rounded and mellow in flavor, with a solid foundation of spice characteristics. Habanito - 100 % Pre Embargo Cuban Tobacco - mixed filler. These cigars are the best value in the store. The cigars are made from the rough leaf edges and trimmings from the P3000's. They are sold at a small fraction of the cost of the P3000. P2000 - 70% Pre Embargo Cuban Tobacco with 30% Equadorian. The same richness of taste but about 20% less in cost. P2000 - Fiero Negro - 70% Pre Embargo Cuban Tobacco. 30% Equadorian Liguero leaves gives this cigar some real strength with the taste of the aged Cuban tobacco. If you like a strong cigar, this one is a real "lung buster". Magus - An excellent Equadorian cigar. Armando Ramos uses a little known drying and curing technique to enhance the flavor of these fine cigars. Bold flavor with a smooth finish. AR / Robaina - 40% Pre Embargo Cuban Tobacco. 60% Equadorian tobacco grown from 1st generation Cuban seeds. It also features a delightful Sun Grown Wrapper from Equador. For around $5 each, this is one of my favorite cigars in the store. If you like Sun Grown wrappers, this is a "Must Smoke" Javier Vizcaino - 35% Pre Embargo Cuban Tobacco. 65% Equadorian with a true Connecticut Shade Wrapper. For those customers who want the taste of aged Cuban tobacco without the strength. The true Connecticut Shade wrapper imparts a smoothness to the smoke yet still allows the Cuban flavor to come through. |
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I couldn't tell you "the best", but I can certainly tell you that my very most favoritest cigar in the whooooooooooole entire world is the Punch Double Corona.
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Still Watching My Back
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Wandering aimlessly
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I love my Padron Anniversary and Tatuaje Cojonu but an Opus X with 3-5 years on it is very hard to beat.
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early 1960s H. Upmann Corona gifted to me by my good friend Allan.
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Adjusting to the Life
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Today, it would probably be the Tatuaje Cojonu 2003. Next week, who knows?
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