Anyone else

05-06-2009, 10:37 PM

Tired of seeing "Cuban-esque" when companies describe their cigar?

theonlybear4CORT · 05-06-2009, 11:36 PM

Yeah but not as much as "reminds me of a barn yard,smells like a barn yard" if a cigar smells like hose poop I'll just pitch it.

duckmanco · 05-07-2009, 12:41 AM

yeah, but more tired of cuban seed.... I think its sort of understood now and not necessary to keep printing it.

Mugen910 · 05-07-2009, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by sonic_mike

Yeah but not as much as "reminds me of a barn yard,smells like a barn yard" if a cigar smells like hose poop I'll just pitch it.

Coz77 · 05-07-2009, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by sonic_mike

Yeah but not as much as "reminds me of a barn yard,smells like a barn yard" if a cigar smells like hose poop I'll just pitch it.

I don't know Mike....Some of the best cigars I've had smell like barn yard on the prelight. Personally if I pull a smoke out of the humi and get a wife of barnyard 9 out of 10 times I'm in for a treat....Ive never had the barnyard smell come through after lighting it though

. Might pitch the smoke if that was the case.

AD720 · 05-07-2009, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Coz77

I don't know Mike....Some of the best cigars I've had smell like barn yard on the prelight. Personally if I pull a smoke out of the humi and get a wife of barnyard 9 out of 10 times I'm in for a treat....Ive never had the barnyard smell come through after lighting it though

. Might pitch the smoke if that was the case.

shadow king · 05-07-2009, 01:40 AM

Its their pitch to get newbs to try it. CC's and NC's are like apples and oranges for about 95% of the product out there. Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of good NC's out there. But to call them cubanesque is a slap in the face imho. Pretty much once you go Cuban you never go back. Pardon the pun...

05-07-2009, 01:55 AM

Its just like "Cuban Seed" or "Havana" on the Label. In my industry it is the American producers calling their beef "American Kobe Beef" or "Kobe-style beef". In the wine world it is "Champagne Method" or "California Champagne". People will always reflect that which is the marker for the industry.

mikeyj23 · 05-07-2009, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DougBushBC

Its just like "Cuban Seed" or "Havana" on the Label. In my industry it is the American producers calling their beef "American Kobe Beef" or "Kobe-style beef". In the wine world it is "Champagne Method" or "California Champagne". People will always reflect that which is the marker for the industry.

well methode champenoise IS a legitimate term/process, but that's neither here nor there.
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05-07-2009, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyj23

well methode champenoise IS a legitimate term/process, but that's neither here nor there.
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Understood, that doesn't mean that it is Champagne. It is a way of producing something that will be close but not quite, just like cigar manufacturers are trying to do.

BryanB · 05-07-2009, 03:04 PM

Dutch Masters are cuban seed according to the box. I don't want cuban seed. But as long as the "idiots" are buying this cuban terms up then it will continue. Maybe the embargo will be lifted and everyone can decide which they like better.

SmokinApe · 05-07-2009, 09:14 AM

I think it's stupid... It is BS marketing in an attempt to get your money...

I was at the B&M and the guy pointed out a cigar and told me it was the most "Cubanest" cigar made. I asked how he knew, what made it cubanesque and if he ever smoked a cuban...

He told me, the manufacturer told him, he didn't know, and he hadn't...

14holestogie · 05-07-2009, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokinApe

I think it's stupid... It is BS marketing in an attempt to get your money...

I was at the B&M and the guy pointed out a cigar and told me it was the most "Cubanest" cigar made. I asked how he knew, what made it cubanesque and if he ever smoked a cuban...

He told me, the manufacturer told him, he didn't know, and he hadn't...

I'm sold.

hotreds · 05-07-2009, 09:17 AM

Yes

05-07-2009, 09:24 AM

I don't see what the big deal is. If you can get cigars that taste like cubans, why buy cubans...

borndead1 · 05-07-2009, 09:30 AM

Meh, it's a marketing ploy. If the cigar tastes good, burns good I don't care if they call it Ronald McDonald's Private Reserve.

Volt · 05-07-2009, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by borndead1

Meh, it's a marketing ploy. If the cigar tastes good, burns good I don't care if they call it Ronald McDonald's Private Reserve.

+1

05-07-2009, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by borndead1

Meh, it's a marketing ploy. If the cigar tastes good, burns good I don't care if they call it Ronald McDonald's Private Reserve.

In the end, I'm the one who decides for me.

05-07-2009, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by nozero

In the end, I'm the one who decides for me.

I couldn't agree more.

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Originally Posted by Sr Mike

Every "cuban-esque" cigar I have smoked tasted like tobacco, those bastards!!!

neoflex · 05-07-2009, 06:16 PM

The problem is it's a marketing ploy that works. Although many boards have tons of members, there is still a giant portion of the market of cigar smokers who don't know any better. I have talked to numerous cigar smokers in my life that have been a lover of the leaf a long time and I sh*t you not it is not uncommon to hear these people say "I like xyz cigar because it's made from a Cuban seed and tastes just like a Cuban" I usually just nod and don't argue with their logic as if it works for them and makes them feel better about there choice of what to smoke because it says that on the box than who am I to ruin it for them. I do ask what Cubans they have smoked and what they compare to and 99.9% of the time I get Cohiba as an answer. In my head I am usually responding, "From a glasstop box right?"

The truth of the matter is a large portion of us BOTL and SOTL don't know any better. There's a reason why Acid is one of the top selling brands.

05-06-2009, 10:37 PM	#1
The Saint Guest Posts: n/a	Anyone else Tired of seeing "Cuban-esque" when companies describe their cigar?

05-06-2009, 11:36 PM	#2
theonlybear4CORT RIP Nick Montano Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mike Location: Santa Rosa Posts: 2,040 Trading: (14)	Re: Anyone else Yeah but not as much as "reminds me of a barn yard,smells like a barn yard" if a cigar smells like hose poop I'll just pitch it.

05-07-2009, 12:41 AM	#3
duckmanco Can't stop whats coming Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: that forsaken stretch of wood they call Whiskey Grove Posts: 404 Trading: (10)	Re: Anyone else yeah, but more tired of cuban seed.... I think its sort of understood now and not necessary to keep printing it. __________________ "...Ain't no dark till somethin' shines..."

05-07-2009, 01:40 AM	#7
shadow king Fresh outta Ad Seg Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Matt Location: Last house on the left Posts: 466 Trading: (19)	Re: Anyone else Its their pitch to get newbs to try it. CC's and NC's are like apples and oranges for about 95% of the product out there. Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of good NC's out there. But to call them cubanesque is a slap in the face imho. Pretty much once you go Cuban you never go back. Pardon the pun...

05-07-2009, 01:55 AM	#8
DougBushBC Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Anyone else Its just like "Cuban Seed" or "Havana" on the Label. In my industry it is the American producers calling their beef "American Kobe Beef" or "Kobe-style beef". In the wine world it is "Champagne Method" or "California Champagne". People will always reflect that which is the marker for the industry.

05-07-2009, 03:04 PM	#11
BryanB Have My Own Room Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Bryan Location: Benson, NC Posts: 1,177 Trading: (58)	Re: Anyone else Dutch Masters are cuban seed according to the box. I don't want cuban seed. But as long as the "idiots" are buying this cuban terms up then it will continue. Maybe the embargo will be lifted and everyone can decide which they like better. __________________ "Cheap cigars come in handy; they stifle the odor of cheap politicians." Ulysses S. Grant

05-07-2009, 09:14 AM	#12
SmokinApe Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jeremy Posts: 1,267 Trading: (35)	Re: Anyone else I think it's stupid... It is BS marketing in an attempt to get your money... I was at the B&M and the guy pointed out a cigar and told me it was the most "Cubanest" cigar made. I asked how he knew, what made it cubanesque and if he ever smoked a cuban... He told me, the manufacturer told him, he didn't know, and he hadn't...

05-07-2009, 09:17 AM	#14
hotreds Ephesians 2:8 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5 miles past "Resume Speed" Posts: 11,670 Trading: (63)	Re: Anyone else Yes __________________ God loves you so much, that he made you read this, just to let you know.

05-07-2009, 09:24 AM	#15
Hardcz Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Anyone else I don't see what the big deal is. If you can get cigars that taste like cubans, why buy cubans...

05-07-2009, 09:30 AM	#16
borndead1 Ayatollah of Rock n Rolla Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Lancaster, CA Posts: 1,375 Trading: (7)	Re: Anyone else Meh, it's a marketing ploy. If the cigar tastes good, burns good I don't care if they call it Ronald McDonald's Private Reserve.

05-07-2009, 06:16 PM	#20
neoflex I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: John Location: Monroe, NC Posts: 2,765 Trading: (32)	Re: Anyone else The problem is it's a marketing ploy that works. Although many boards have tons of members, there is still a giant portion of the market of cigar smokers who don't know any better. I have talked to numerous cigar smokers in my life that have been a lover of the leaf a long time and I sh*t you not it is not uncommon to hear these people say "I like xyz cigar because it's made from a Cuban seed and tastes just like a Cuban" I usually just nod and don't argue with their logic as if it works for them and makes them feel better about there choice of what to smoke because it says that on the box than who am I to ruin it for them. I do ask what Cubans they have smoked and what they compare to and 99.9% of the time I get Cohiba as an answer. In my head I am usually responding, "From a glasstop box right?" The truth of the matter is a large portion of us BOTL and SOTL don't know any better. There's a reason why Acid is one of the top selling brands. __________________