Cigar Aficionado..top 10 of 2010...

[Bill86]

Originally Posted by Cohiba007

Think a Behike will make top 3?

Not the 54. I heard the 52 was good, so I guess it has a chance.

[Adriftpanda]

Let me sum it up for all you guys.

10-6, not worthy.

[TheRiddick]

Originally Posted by Adriftpanda

Let me sum it up for all you guys.

10-6, not worthy.

Says the man who brought a box of Air Benders to a herf...

Me personally, I dont look at their top 25 and say 'oh these are the best cigars out there' but, i do look at it as a buying guide, soo to speak. If there is a stick on there that I havent had yet I will try to get 1. My personal feeling is if it makes somebody's top whatever, it may be worth giving a shot.

[TheRiddick]

Originally Posted by lyle23

Me personally, I dont look at their top 25 and say 'oh these are the best cigars out there' but, i do look at it as a buying guide, soo to speak. If there is a stick on there that I havent had yet I will try to get 1. My personal feeling is if it makes somebody's top whatever, it may be worth giving a shot.

Agree on all counts. Anything that says "consumer reviews" should be treated as a guide and not much else. Funny how people get bent of shape when their favorites don't make it on someone's list. As far as I can see it, it should be a "benefit" since whatever you like in such a case will be more readily available and probably stay underpriced. Applies to cigars and anything else...

Also, what many seem to miss is that cigars, unlike say, wine/beer/alcohol, are made of solids and vary from leaf to leaf no matter how well anyone ferments and treats them. They will be extremely close in best case scenarios, but nowhere near as homogenous as wine, for example. All barrels in a particular lot are blended together before bottling making each and every bottle taste the same right after bottling (cork and storage will affect each bottle with time, as the saying goes, There are no great wines, only great bottles). Great cigars are as even in stick to stick profile, but never the same (different number and size of veins in each leaf, a tiny bit more of sun exposure and subsequent fermentation here and there, etc.). Bottom line: there will be differences from bale to bale as well as leaf to leaf.

So, a cigar one tastes from a Left Coast retailer has a great probability of tasting slightly different than the one tasted from a lot shipped to NY. There is no mystery there.

[BigAsh]

Here's #'s 5 thru 2....
5. Camacho Corojo Churchill
4. Padrón Family Reserve No. 45 (Natural)
3. Fuente Fuente OpusX XXX Belicoso
2. Viaje Oro Reserva VOR No. 5

Viaje @ #2....I bet they don't advertise much in CA....Interesting picks

[Adriftpanda]

Hahah I brought it for yours guys enjoyment!

Not a bad cigar, just not Top 10 worthy.

[quantim0]

^ I agree

If you took 25 peoples Top 10 lists, they would all be different. Any list of top 10 anything will have controversy.

I look at their list as a "things I should try". I don't take their list as the gospel, or even with the thought that I will like the cigars they put on it. I have had most of the cigars up already minus the EP Carillo and H Upmann and I will agree that they are good cigars and worthy of being on the top 25 list somewhere.

[thebiglebowski]

well, the upmanns are certainly good...

[NorcalMark]

The La Aroma de Cuba Mi Amore, is an outstanding cigar.

Camacho Corojo at #5 is a joke.

[JJG]

Originally Posted by NorcalMark

Camacho Corojo at #5 is a joke.

gotta agree with you there. I mean, you may not like every cigar on the list, but that one sticks out like a sore thumb among the other 3 cigars listed.

[icehog3]

Different strokes for different folks. Lists are subjective.

[HK3-]

I've always wondered about these ratings or whatever you want to call them. Do they state what year cigars they are smoking for this top 25?

[DennisP]

Originally Posted by HK3-

I've always wondered about these ratings or whatever you want to call them. Do they state what year cigars they are smoking for this top 25?

I know in the regular reviews Cubans have the Month/Year.

[CigarNut]

These kinds of lists have little meaning for me. These cigars may be great for others but if they do not fit my flavor profile I would not enjoy them.

I know what I like, and I continue to sample other marcas/votolas in order to find new cigars that I like, but these kinds of lists have little influence on that process.

[wayner123]

Remember as well this is only the first third of the cigar. The reviewers don't smoke the entire cigar.

[Kreth]

Originally Posted by wayner123

Remember as well this is only the first third of the cigar. The reviewers don't smoke the entire cigar.

Seriously? How can you properly review a cigar like that?
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[wayner123]

Originally Posted by Kreth

Seriously? How can you properly review a cigar like that?
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Yes, that is serious.

But that's how they do it. A person could make the case for a wide varieties of factors that might influence a review (what they had to drink, what they had to eat, what they pair it with, etc, etc) so I don't say what's proper and what's not. Just pointing out that this is the method they use.

[DennisP]

Originally Posted by wayner123

Remember as well this is only the first third of the cigar. The reviewers don't smoke the entire cigar.

I've heard this a few times, but have they published this anywhere?

[wayner123]

Originally Posted by DennisP

I've heard this a few times, but have they published this anywhere?

It was "published" by Gordon Mott (one of the reviewers) on cigarfamily. Here is the link:

http://lounge.cigarfamily.com/showth...14#post3000538

I can't say for certain that someone didn't make up an account and post that info, but suffice to say it would be a pretty big scam if they did.

Here is the quote from Mott:

1) I have said openly that we smoke between half an inch to an inch of each cigar. I've had manufacturers rake me over the coals for that fact, and for the fact that we don't "smoke a whole box" to get the true nature of their product. I remind them that they are a consumer product manufacturer. If you say to me that you have to smoke half of a cigar to "get to the good part," I have a problem with that. If you light up a cigar, and it tastes like ****, not only for the first five minutes but for a good 30 minutes before you get half way down, the majority of people will simply put it out, and never come back. And if they smoke a whole box, and don't like half of the cigars in it, they won't be buying that brand again. We didn't just arbitrarily chose the half-inch to an inch limit, although Andy is right; there is a simple logistical imperative that comes into play. But after many hours of talking with cigar people, and I hope mastering some of the intricacies of what makes a handrolled cigar function, nearly everyone talks about a point where a cigar gets "running." It's usually after that first-half inch. By then, you will in 99 percent of the cases, know the true nature of the cigar; you certainly will a perfect idea of draw and burn, most flavor components, and whether or not you like it.

So I was being liberal in saying that they smoke the first 1/3. The first half or inch of a cigar is not much imo.