A kick in the nuts due to new law....

Went by my favorite B&M today. First time I've been by there in a while due to moving and being busy. Went in, a few guys sitting around in the lounge area talking as usual. Didn't pay much attention to the fact that nobody was smoking. Went in the humidor, picked out a Padron, went to the counter. Shop owner rang me up and started to bag the cigar. I said "Don't worry bout that, gonna smoke it here". Then he broke the news.....no more smoking in the shop due to that new smoking ban that just came into affect in North Carolina. I thought that only applied to the bars and restaurants! We talked about it for a couple minutes and he said the reason it affected him was the fact of his shop being in a strip mall setting. The neighbors have been complaining to the landlord and all. It was a kick in the nuts because thats the only place around I knew to smoke in. Anyway, I enjoyed my cigar on the ride back home, so not a complete loss! He said he was working on a solution....guess he may be planning on moving to a free standing building so smoking will be allowed. I really hope he does because the owner is an awesome guy and he runs the best B&M around here. I'll continue to go there for B&M purchases, just a shame that the days on sitting around in there enjoying a good smoke are gone.

Oh that sounds terrible. ive been looking for a place to smoke at because during the winter here it gets too cold to just go out on the deck or to the garage unless i get a fire goin in there, which i dont always feel like going through the hassle for. hopefully he moves to a place where the lounge can be of use again.

[hotreds]

I would be and am all in favor of no smoking in a restaurant. But laws have taken the ban to a level of stupidity that boggles the mind.

I really think this decision should have been left up to the individual property owners. I guess I could go along with the restaurants being completely smoke free in some cases. Mostly because of so many inconsiderate cigarette smokers.....alot of them have no standards and even tend to light up in a non smoking section. As far as a bar goes....give me a break! I've read all these comments on these news site "I hate smelling like a bar when I get home". Well....how about not going to a bar if you don't want to smell like one! It is what it is! Go to McDonalds eat inside, you'll likely smell like french fries when you come out. I think bars, and businesses not serving food should not have been affected.

[Chris.]

Originally Posted by Namerifrats

I really think this decision should have been left up to the individual property owners. I guess I could go along with the restaurants being completely smoke free in some cases. Mostly because of so many inconsiderate cigarette smokers.....alot of them have no standards and even tend to light up in a non smoking section. As far as a bar goes....give me a break! I've read all these comments on these news site "I hate smelling like a bar when I get home". Well....how about not going to a bar if you don't want to smell like one! It is what it is! Go to McDonalds eat inside, you'll likely smell like french fries when you come out. I think bars, and businesses not serving food should not have been affected.

Exactly how I stand on it. I don't think smoking should be okay in restaurants unless you are sitting outside on a porch/patio and there are no kids around. A bar, is a place where people get drunk and wild anyways, so why not smoke? You don't bring your damn kids to a bar. If you don't want to be around smoke, don't go to a bar. And to impose these laws on businesses that rely on tobacco sale and allowing their customers to stay and smoke/drink/hang out is ridiculous and detrimental to tons of B&Ms.

[Starscream]

Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

Yep. A b&m has to be in a free-standing building with no other stores joining it. A no smoking b&m is more common than most think. This new law was passed back in June.

I remember when this one passed. I thought a business could pay a $200 fine and not worry about it for a while.

Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

It happens when people don't pay attention to what their fascist gubment is doing to them. This state has been in trouble for a while. I can't tell you how many people I have spoken with in the past few days that knew nothing of the new law.

No offense to any of you yankees here at CA (I love you all, even the Massholes), but NC has had way too many carpetbaggers move into this state over the past two decades. They brought the no-smoking and other legislation with them.

Originally Posted by Ratters

That's what I'm using, works great. Lowes has them for around eighty bucks.

I'll have to check into one of these.

[Mr. Ed]

Originally Posted by Chris.

Exactly how I stand on it. I don't think smoking should be okay in restaurants unless you are sitting outside on a porch/patio and there are no kids around. A bar, is a place where people get drunk and wild anyways, so why not smoke? You don't bring your damn kids to a bar. If you don't want to be around smoke, don't go to a bar. And to impose these laws on businesses that rely on tobacco sale and allowing their customers to stay and smoke/drink/hang out is ridiculous and detrimental to tons of B&Ms.

You need to stop typing right now! You're making too much sense!

No smoking in a B&M is a damn shame,. I've become accustomed to smoking bans and realize they are likely a permanent fixture for the future, but Tobacco shops? Really? After a few complaints? What's happening in NC?

[loki]

Originally Posted by hotreds

I would be and am all in favor of no smoking in a restaurant. But laws have taken the ban to a level of stupidity that boggles the mind.

I'm all for the OWNERS right to decide what goes on in his establishment. The GOVERNMENT telling him what to do is another story

When the government has too much control, it moves from democracy to communism. The direction we appear to be heading in.....

Originally Posted by Namerifrats

When the government has too much control, it moves from democracy to communism. The direction we appear to be heading in.....

BINGO, Control and power..Control and power.

[jerseystepup]

Woww... no smoking in a b&m? thats crazy..

[Don Fernando]

Originally Posted by jerseystepup

Woww... no smoking in a b&m? thats crazy..

That's the case here in The Netherlands too, unless the B&M has a closed smoke lounge and the staff can't enter the smoke lounge when people are smoking.

Originally Posted by Don Fernando

That's the case here in The Netherlands too, unless the B&M has a closed smoke lounge and the staff can't enter the smoke lounge when people are smoking.

Get this, I go to a place called CDO Smokers Lounge. I go in the joint and guess what, theres not even a smoking lounge! how much more misleading can you be lol

[longknocker]

Originally Posted by jerseystepup

Woww... no smoking in a b&m? thats crazy..

Can't Smoke In Any Of The B&Ms In Mobile.

[NCRadioMan]

Yep. A b&m has to be in a free-standing building with no other stores joining it. A no smoking b&m is more common than most think. This new law was passed back in June.

[68TriShield]

This is the best solution I have found so far.Nothing will help with the smoke nazis though
After trying a Kerosene Heater and salamander type. I found this to be fast heating and it runs up to two weeks on a tank.
That's with going out most every evening for a two or three hours.
Normally I only use one side.

Make sure you have good ventilation!

[G G]

Originally Posted by 68TriShield

This is the best solution I have found so far.Nothing will help with the smoke nazis though
After trying a Kerosene Heater and salamander type. I found this to be fast heating and it runs up to two weeks on a tank.
That's with going out most every evening for a two or three hours.
Normally I only use one side.

Make sure you have good ventilation!

Matter of fact I went looking for one of these today. They want over $100.00 here for them. I'll get one sooner or later.

I use one of these in the house and in the garage in the winter. Works great and have used it for the last 3 years. The cost to use this per hour is 11 cents at 1500 watts.


http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product...204000000&Mo=0

[aich75013]

Originally Posted by Cigary

I use one of these in the house and in the garage in the winter. Works great and have used it for the last 3 years. The cost to use this per hour is 11 cents at 1500 watts.


http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product...204000000&Mo=0

I remember walking past this heater at Costco last year. It put out an good amount of heat.

[Ratters]

Originally Posted by 68TriShield

This is the best solution I have found so far.Nothing will help with the smoke nazis though
After trying a Kerosene Heater and salamander type. I found this to be fast heating and it runs up to two weeks on a tank.
That's with going out most every evening for a two or three hours.
Normally I only use one side.

Make sure you have good ventilation!

That's what I'm using, works great. Lowes has them for around eighty bucks.