Partagas....

Thrak · 07-19-2011, 04:59 PM

I've had 5 Partagas sticks now. 3 Black and 2 Cifuentes... well, let me correct that, I've TRIED to have 5 Partagas sticks. They have all had MAJOR draw issues which rendered them worthless. The Blacks were so bad I envoked the CI guarantee and got my money back.

How many chances do you give a brand? Have I just had extremely bad luck?

Bax · 07-19-2011, 05:01 PM

After 5 I'd dump them. I liked the Gurks until I have about a half dozen that were just God awful.

Emjaysmash · 07-19-2011, 05:40 PM

I don't smoke many NC Partagas'. In fact, the only one I've had in the last two years was a Cifuentes. They just don't float my boat. I haven't had draw problems with them, however.

SvilleKid · 07-19-2011, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Thrak

I've had 5 Partagas sticks now. 3 Black and 2 Cifuentes... well, let me correct that, I've TRIED to have 5 Partagas sticks. They have all had MAJOR draw issues which rendered them worthless. The Blacks were so bad I envoked the CI guarantee and got my money back.

How many chances do you give a brand? Have I just had extremely bad luck?

I assume they all came from CI? Let them rest for a couple weeks, or dry-box them? Just wondering, because everything I always got from CI or Cbid was always well over-humidified, and always had draw issues when fresh. I rarely smoked anything from CI sooner than a month from getting them. I haven't gotten anything from CI in several years, and was wondering if they were still shipping over-humidified?

Bill86 · 07-19-2011, 05:59 PM

I've had NC partagas, they are awful. Horrible injustice to the name "Partagas".

The blacks tasted like soap and ...something else fowl. I forget. Plastic maybe?

I dunno they sat in my wooden desktop at the time for probably 2 months before smoking them...Wasn't my fault they were bad, just....bad.

If I try maybe 3 cigars from a brand and don't like them. I'll never buy another from that brand.

I do agree with Cliff though, CI is horrible. Get your smokes elsewhere.

Gophernut · 07-19-2011, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SvilleKid

I I haven't gotten anything from CI in several years, and was wondering if they were still shipping over-humidified?

My last shipment sure seemed to be. 1 week in my 65% humi and still was hard to keep lit.

Thrak · 07-19-2011, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SvilleKid

I assume they all came from CI? Let them rest for a couple weeks, or dry-box them? Just wondering, because everything I always got from CI or Cbid was always well over-humidified, and always had draw issues when fresh. I rarely smoked anything from CI sooner than a month from getting them. I haven't gotten anything from CI in several years, and was wondering if they were still shipping over-humidified?

The one I tried tonight has at least 2 months on it, the Blacks had at least a month.

I havent had problems with CI. I've got a good enough stock I can let them rest a while...

Col. Kurtz · 07-19-2011, 06:13 PM

I wonder if they really ship from the warehouse that wet, or if the 90% RH in transit has more of an effect?

Dunkel · 07-19-2011, 06:30 PM

My friends and I have had draw trouble with Partagas Blacks for years. When they draw good they are decent but when they don't they are like smoking a broomstick.

Pat1075 · 07-19-2011, 06:38 PM

I've always had a bad experience with the partagas black, and I did give it a fair shake. The first time it was sick as a dog, just tasted like windex. The second time it was plugged. The third time, it was plugged as well. Though it could have just as easily been frozen because I was chewing on it and I was trying to smoke it outside watching the fireworks in colorado on a particularly cold new years.

JJG · 07-19-2011, 08:43 PM

I think NC Partagas are notoriously bad. The only time I have had a B&M employee tell me NOT to buy a cigar was when I picked up a Partagas.

The Benji Master Series was a joke too, complete waste of money in my opinion.

It's unfortunate, as someone else mentioned since the the original CC Partagas line is top notch.

St. Lou Stu · 07-19-2011, 08:48 PM

When the Blacks are on... they are on!
That said... I can only recall literally a handful that were on out of 50 or so that I've had.
The regular NC Partagas that I've had have mostly been dog rockets.
They had a seasonal line (Summer, Winter and Fall) that was phenomenal... I still have a box and a half from '04.

Thrak · 07-20-2011, 12:46 PM

Man I thought I was the only one lol

I havent had the opportunity to try a CC one, but I think I'm done with the NCs... Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me, fool me 5 times and shame on err.. its a shame!

BigCat · 07-20-2011, 02:17 PM

I smoke a lot of the blacks. I'm on my third or fourth box of the magnificos. I've seriously never had a bad stick. One of the more consistent smokes I've encountered in terms of both flavor and draw. It's a shame you've experienced otherwise.

alfredo_buscatti · 08-31-2011, 08:00 AM

I got a great buy from CI, not knowing their reputation, which, so far as I read here, stems only from selling over-humidified products. What else makes them so bad that some advocate not doing business with them?

Be that as it may, The box I bought from them, $39.00 for a box of 20 Cuba Libre churchills, were wet. I only let them sit in my humidor for three days
and smoked one, and the burn imploded: the draw remained but had little effect on burning the cigar; instead the wrapper turned black all around it, with a small amount of smoke.

The happy ending is that I smoked one today and both the burn and the taste were good.

irratebass · 08-31-2011, 08:21 AM

Man and CI has such good prices....any others that people could suggest, I was really drooling over that new catalog too.

WittyUserName · 08-31-2011, 08:53 AM

I got a 10 pack of Partagas Spanish Rosado from CI and have had nothing but great smokes. You just have to be cognizant that they come in a little over humidified and let them sit and adjust.

I have been ordering from CI for at least 3 years now and have not had any major (cracking, smashed, beetles, mold) problems at all.

thechrisdotcom · 08-31-2011, 09:02 AM

I've bought a few boxes and samplers from CI before, never had issues. I did buy a bundle of the Gran Habanos Vintage 2002s but I was forewarned to let them sit out for a week or 2 before putting them in the humidor since they came a bit wet. I did smoke one that was still too wet and it was a failure. But other than that, the advice I got from a buddy about letting them sit for awhile helped me not ruin the smokes. I just had to wait it out.

irratebass · 08-31-2011, 09:47 AM

Adam & Chris good news

Trace63 · 08-31-2011, 09:56 AM

Im mostly a CC guy myself now, but the Party Blacks are actually one of my fav NC sticks.
Maybe Ive just been lucky with them?

07-19-2011, 04:59 PM	#1
Thrak .. the man from Nantucket Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canton, GA Posts: 558 Trading: (2)	Partagas.... I've had 5 Partagas sticks now. 3 Black and 2 Cifuentes... well, let me correct that, I've TRIED to have 5 Partagas sticks. They have all had MAJOR draw issues which rendered them worthless. The Blacks were so bad I envoked the CI guarantee and got my money back. How many chances do you give a brand? Have I just had extremely bad luck?

07-19-2011, 05:01 PM	#2
Bax C A P S...CAPS CAPS CAPS! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tim Location: Ringgold,GA Posts: 2,173 Trading: (70)	Re: Partagas.... After 5 I'd dump them. I liked the Gurks until I have about a half dozen that were just God awful. __________________ I'm the most interesting man in the world... but only if you find stupid stuff really interesting.

07-19-2011, 05:40 PM	#3
Emjaysmash The Hebrew Hammer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: M.J. Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 7,025 Trading: (76)	Re: Partagas.... I don't smoke many NC Partagas'. In fact, the only one I've had in the last two years was a Cifuentes. They just don't float my boat. I haven't had draw problems with them, however. __________________

07-19-2011, 05:59 PM	#5
Bill86 Snob Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Bill Posts: 6,704 Trading: (67)	Re: Partagas.... I've had NC partagas, they are awful. Horrible injustice to the name "Partagas". The blacks tasted like soap and ...something else fowl. I forget. Plastic maybe? I dunno they sat in my wooden desktop at the time for probably 2 months before smoking them...Wasn't my fault they were bad, just....bad. If I try maybe 3 cigars from a brand and don't like them. I'll never buy another from that brand. I do agree with Cliff though, CI is horrible. Get your smokes elsewhere. __________________ I'm drunk......but I'll get drunker! - Doug Stanhope

07-19-2011, 06:13 PM	#8
Col. Kurtz Have My Own Room Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Jerry Location: South Appleton Posts: 1,839 Trading: (26)	Re: Partagas.... I wonder if they really ship from the warehouse that wet, or if the 90% RH in transit has more of an effect? __________________ Artillery Lends Dignity to What Would Otherwise Be a Vulgar Brawl

07-19-2011, 06:30 PM	#9
Dunkel Maduro & Oscuro Whore-O Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Doug Location: West by God Virginia Posts: 2,232 Trading: (75)	Re: Partagas.... My friends and I have had draw trouble with Partagas Blacks for years. When they draw good they are decent but when they don't they are like smoking a broomstick. __________________ Blue Label,Any Filipe Gregorio,Acid,Don Elias,El Mejor Espresso,Tierra del Sol

07-19-2011, 06:38 PM	#10
Pat1075 Feeling at Home Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Patrick Location: Lakewood, OH Posts: 755 Trading: (11)	Re: Partagas.... I've always had a bad experience with the partagas black, and I did give it a fair shake. The first time it was sick as a dog, just tasted like windex. The second time it was plugged. The third time, it was plugged as well. Though it could have just as easily been frozen because I was chewing on it and I was trying to smoke it outside watching the fireworks in colorado on a particularly cold new years.

07-19-2011, 08:43 PM	#11
JJG Have My Own Room Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Jeff Location: Houston Posts: 1,260 Trading: (4)	Re: Partagas.... I think NC Partagas are notoriously bad. The only time I have had a B&M employee tell me NOT to buy a cigar was when I picked up a Partagas. The Benji Master Series was a joke too, complete waste of money in my opinion. It's unfortunate, as someone else mentioned since the the original CC Partagas line is top notch.

07-19-2011, 08:48 PM	#12
St. Lou Stu Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tim Location: Belleville, IL (St. Louis) Posts: 2,304 Trading: (21)	Re: Partagas.... When the Blacks are on... they are on! That said... I can only recall literally a handful that were on out of 50 or so that I've had. The regular NC Partagas that I've had have mostly been dog rockets. They had a seasonal line (Summer, Winter and Fall) that was phenomenal... I still have a box and a half from '04. __________________ Pretending to play golf since 1989

07-20-2011, 12:46 PM	#13
Thrak .. the man from Nantucket Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canton, GA Posts: 558 Trading: (2)	Re: Partagas.... Man I thought I was the only one lol I havent had the opportunity to try a CC one, but I think I'm done with the NCs... Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me, fool me 5 times and shame on err.. its a shame!

07-20-2011, 02:17 PM	#14
BigCat My back is now unwatched. Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Colin Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 723 Trading: (5)	Re: Partagas.... I smoke a lot of the blacks. I'm on my third or fourth box of the magnificos. I've seriously never had a bad stick. One of the more consistent smokes I've encountered in terms of both flavor and draw. It's a shame you've experienced otherwise. __________________ "Now, I don't approve of dissipation, and I don't indulge in it either; but I haven't a particle of confidence in a man who has no redeeming petty vices." Mark Twain

08-31-2011, 08:00 AM	#15
alfredo_buscatti Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Mike Location: Piedmont, NC Posts: 277 Trading: (9)	Re: Partagas.... I got a great buy from CI, not knowing their reputation, which, so far as I read here, stems only from selling over-humidified products. What else makes them so bad that some advocate not doing business with them? Be that as it may, The box I bought from them, $39.00 for a box of 20 Cuba Libre churchills, were wet. I only let them sit in my humidor for three days and smoked one, and the burn imploded: the draw remained but had little effect on burning the cigar; instead the wrapper turned black all around it, with a small amount of smoke. The happy ending is that I smoked one today and both the burn and the taste were good.

08-31-2011, 08:21 AM	#16
irratebass EMPEROR TOMPKINS Join Date: Aug 2011 First Name: Mickey Location: Mooresville, Indiana Posts: 8,313 Trading: (48)	Re: Partagas.... Man and CI has such good prices....any others that people could suggest, I was really drooling over that new catalog too. __________________

08-31-2011, 08:53 AM	#17
WittyUserName WOOOHOOO Join Date: Aug 2011 First Name: Adam Location: Virginia Posts: 1,455 Trading: (15)	Re: Partagas.... I got a 10 pack of Partagas Spanish Rosado from CI and have had nothing but great smokes. You just have to be cognizant that they come in a little over humidified and let them sit and adjust. I have been ordering from CI for at least 3 years now and have not had any major (cracking, smashed, beetles, mold) problems at all.

08-31-2011, 09:02 AM	#18
thechrisdotcom . Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 601 Trading: (2)	Re: Partagas.... I've bought a few boxes and samplers from CI before, never had issues. I did buy a bundle of the Gran Habanos Vintage 2002s but I was forewarned to let them sit out for a week or 2 before putting them in the humidor since they came a bit wet. I did smoke one that was still too wet and it was a failure. But other than that, the advice I got from a buddy about letting them sit for awhile helped me not ruin the smokes. I just had to wait it out.

08-31-2011, 09:47 AM	#19
irratebass EMPEROR TOMPKINS Join Date: Aug 2011 First Name: Mickey Location: Mooresville, Indiana Posts: 8,313 Trading: (48)	Re: Partagas.... Adam & Chris good news __________________

08-31-2011, 09:56 AM	#20
Trace63 We're all mad here Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Kamil Location: Somerville, MA Posts: 428 Trading: (5)	Re: Partagas.... Im mostly a CC guy myself now, but the Party Blacks are actually one of my fav NC sticks. Maybe Ive just been lucky with them? __________________ [replicant_argent] 11:07 am: Wasn't wayne a busboy at the last supper? [Dooge] 10:49 pm: just judo chopped a fly