[Adriftpanda]

Don't think you'll get much out of the Dr. Jekyll, it's more of a good pump pwo. Not much stim or caffeine. Contains a fairly large amount of nitric oxide for that "pump."

I would not take it alone as a pre, Charlie. Something like that should be mix with another supplement.

I take hvol which is another pwo that contains mainly n.o. along with a higher dosage of caffeine or beta alanine.