[Dave128]

When I did stupid stuff as a kid I was often given the choice of either the belt or the hand. If we were outside in the garage, a 2x4 was added to the equation. If my brother and I were fighting so much that it pissed off my dad, he gave us a choice of either the front yard or back yard to hug it out. We were also on baseball teams that kept score and we learned what it was like to win or lose. I think we turned out OK.