I have liked every Ashton I have smoked. Their VSG goes right up there to the top. I didn't know the Oliva S-V was a sungrown. That one goes to the top too. The RPs are real good. I have been unimpressed by the AF sungrowns. The Taboo HSG seemed too weak for my taste. There are probably a lot more that could be called "sungrown" that I like. I fell like digging through my stash and picking one out now.