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Originally Posted by tnip23
Agree on the the process being shortcutted on the SA, they probably don't have open air fermenters in buildings filled with centuries of wild yeast strains to produce a true belgian lambic, but I just don't think that it has that bad a taste. I'll disagree with you on the sweetness though, Lindeman's Framboise is as sweet or sweeter than the SA cranberry.
On your other point, light lager is a style. Adding adjuncts such as corn and rice instead of using all barley is just a bastardization to save money. I can drink an all barley light lager or ale and say it's a good beer, can't do that with a bud.
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As far as the Lindeman's, it's a fruit beer based on a lambic, which is fine for what it is. You may argue that the SA would be the same thing, but there is not lambic base there to begin with. Lambics are supposed to be a sour beer, not just have the tartness of a fruit.
For the light lager style, as I said, Bud and Coors light are defining examples of the style; BJCP Style Guide section 1A. Sure, corn and rice aren't Reinheitsgebot sanctioned, but then, neither is fruit.