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Old 03-04-2009, 09:53 PM   #4
kiokicigars
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Default Re: stirring the pot local B&M vs big internet

I was reading a lot of these posts and a few things to point out here on my thinking. A local B&M sells mostly from boxes...I would imagine. Now you know these are not 2nds are quick made cigars...whatever you wish to call them.

Here is a good test...one of these big outfits have these Gurkha deals (we will use Gurkha for this...just cause I see these deals all the time)...pick any of them and for the sake of argument lets say the Gurkha Beast...you can buy a box of these for about $600 + and you see these $30 samplers with a few of them. Buy that sampler and take it to your local B&M if they have Gurkha...the construction is different and the color is way off compared to the Beast out of the box. I would think a local B&M selling from the box...."well, you know they most likely come from the box". These large retailers have good deals...so you get what you pay for.

The point here is that a local B&M that deals direct with..."let's say Gurkha again" they buy 1,2,3,4,5, etc. boxes...that large internet retailer buys maybe 400,000 + cigars from Gurkha (so I am sure deals are made to use a lesser qty. tobacco for these "deal" cigars). If you think about this for one sec. if you owned Gurkha...and the online retailer is busting your B@lls for a way better price so they can make a higher profit...based on the fact that they outsell the little B&M by lightyears....would you use the same tobacco that is used in the "boxes"? That is the question and I am sure with some of the buying power from these places that this might happen...know nothing for fact, but how can the super large online retailer offer a "super-deal...say 75% off deal" from the box, when your local B&M would go out of business doing so.

The other issue is...would the factory going to use all their (A+++ ) tobacco for these suspected (2nd's or deal cigars)? I think not...they would not use this A+++ tobacco for the bundle type, 2nd, quick made, etc. cigars that they get less money for.

That does not make sense...to me at least. I am sure these large places buy tons of boxes from one factory and the factory will make these quick deal singles or samplers to sell at way better prices....they might not be A+++ quality...they maybe only A+ quality. If I owed any cigar factory and have a client with a 3 million dollar a year account....would I say no??? Would you??? to give them a bunch of lesser quality cigars in singles, samples to keep them happy by bring in sales for me and making them happy so they can get the 2nd, bundle, quick made, etc. cigar for cheaper so they can make more money, sell more, but more from me, etc.

When it comes down to it...money is money, we are work our a$$es off to make it to support ourselves, families, etc. it is just that some...not all of these places might cut corners to offers way better deals, sell tons of cigars, make higher profits, etc.

Last edited by kiokicigars; 03-04-2009 at 09:58 PM. Reason: add text