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Old 06-24-2014, 01:48 PM   #28
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Default Re: Starting a brick and mortar

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Originally Posted by Crusader View Post
I appoligize if I hurt some feelings, it was not the intentions. My reference is to understand our type of shop we are looking for. We live in a town of about 50k and the only place to buy "premiums" is at a Smoker Friendly that is in the seedy part of town.
Yes, I absolutely think there has been a de-emphasis of the gentleman in our American culture, especially in I'm ok you're ok groups. Hey, I wear T-shirts and cargos too, but, they should not be your first choice out to eat and especially to church.
Why would I want to do a business deal with someone who does not care about appearance in any way.
Anywho, the guys I know will not even go to the one place in town due to the clientele that hang out there and my buddy and I do go go there minimum once a week in the winter for a mini herf because they do have a decent lounge that no one really uses.
Our idea would be to reach the other half that are missing out. The sticks would be our enjoyment and the others stuff to suplement.

And on the rvs. Heartland rv is probably the most solid manufacturer with Open Range / Highland ridge being a close second. Otherwise they are mostly the same using the same parts. 95% of owning an rv is your dealer you buy it from and how well they stand behind the product they sell. As the Warranty Manager I can tell you those two company's I mentioned back their product and what they don't we do as long as it's not absurd neglect. I pay a lot of claims for people on things that are not covered and that's what keeps us in business. Hell, we even do a lot of other dealerships warranty because they suck and won't help out their own.

Thanks! I am actually looking very hard at Heartland Sundance and Elkridge models. The difficulty I'm having is trying to determine MSRP I suspect the dealers inflate the MSRP, but I have no way of knowing for sure. They have a few 32-35' with floorplans I like in the $40k range, but I'm really trying to be out the door for 35k or less.

As far as the cigar shop, a town of 50k isn't a lot of people. Can a town that size actually support more than one? Is the demographic you are seeking out actually large enough to support you? You said there is a nicer lounge that rarely gets used, why is that? Is it because the current clientele runs off the others, or is it because there simply aren't enough others? In such a small town I would be wary of opening something unless I was certain I could dominate. I'm from a town that size and unless yours is very different, the ratio of what you might call sophisticated affluent versus every day people is pretty small.
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