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shilala · 07-31-2013, 03:42 PM

That's a cool setup, but it's also too much to manage.
Maybe we're talking about 2 different things. I'm really talking about picking up free agents and the pain waivers brings to it.
Take your example about the backup RB, I can just immediately grab him.
If the player I drop would go on waivers, and be subject to waiver priority, that's cool with me.

Problem is, and correct me if I'm wrong, Yahoo places every free agent on waivers when you pick him up. Then everyone and their brother can hop on that same player, all plying on the initial guy's FF smarts and him getting squat for his effort.
Plus it's highly likely it's HIS RB that got his leg broke, and he's trying to stay alive by immediately tying up that team's backup RB. To do that he'd have to drop a good bench player to make space since his broken legged guy already played, and that's the cost of doing business, or the insult added to injury, if you will.

So my contention is this:
If Free Agents were not subject to Waivers in any fashion, I'd be cool with waivers and waiver priority. I'm okay with dropped players being placed on waivers, because they are inherently valuable unless they're injured and out for the season, or something like that.

There is a way to kind of implement the "bidding" process, and that would be to simply limit how many moves a team can make. We can set waiver moves to 10 or 20 per season, or whatever seems reasonable. I don't think that's necessary either, but if I shorten the number of players on teams, there are likely to be a lot more waiver moves. But I like that. It's playing the game, and a very fun part of FF strategy.

I'm trying to change my mind, but it's kinda like trying to stick a wet noodle up a wildcat's ass. I'm getting nowhere fast and it's painful.

Oh, I just caught your highlighted thing...
I think both my idea and yours are available options. The TE/WR/RB, and the TE/WR/RB/QB. I just double checked, and they both are, yes.
With the way we changed things, QB is going to be less valuable than a 1st string RB, WR, or top 3 TE. WR being shaky unless there are a few monsters this year. But that's debatable.
I think the TE/WR/RB may be something guys would like. I was just shooting for a real "flex play" by including the QB, but that's not at all necessary. Neither are necessary, really, but it might make things easier as players get hurt.

07-31-2013, 03:42 PM	#23
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: Fourth Annual Fantasy Football for Stakes and the Troops That's a cool setup, but it's also too much to manage. Maybe we're talking about 2 different things. I'm really talking about picking up free agents and the pain waivers brings to it. Take your example about the backup RB, I can just immediately grab him. If the player I drop would go on waivers, and be subject to waiver priority, that's cool with me. Problem is, and correct me if I'm wrong, Yahoo places every free agent on waivers when you pick him up. Then everyone and their brother can hop on that same player, all plying on the initial guy's FF smarts and him getting squat for his effort. Plus it's highly likely it's HIS RB that got his leg broke, and he's trying to stay alive by immediately tying up that team's backup RB. To do that he'd have to drop a good bench player to make space since his broken legged guy already played, and that's the cost of doing business, or the insult added to injury, if you will. So my contention is this: If Free Agents were not subject to Waivers in any fashion, I'd be cool with waivers and waiver priority. I'm okay with dropped players being placed on waivers, because they are inherently valuable unless they're injured and out for the season, or something like that. There is a way to kind of implement the "bidding" process, and that would be to simply limit how many moves a team can make. We can set waiver moves to 10 or 20 per season, or whatever seems reasonable. I don't think that's necessary either, but if I shorten the number of players on teams, there are likely to be a lot more waiver moves. But I like that. It's playing the game, and a very fun part of FF strategy. I'm trying to change my mind, but it's kinda like trying to stick a wet noodle up a wildcat's ass. I'm getting nowhere fast and it's painful. Oh, I just caught your highlighted thing... I think both my idea and yours are available options. The TE/WR/RB, and the TE/WR/RB/QB. I just double checked, and they both are, yes. With the way we changed things, QB is going to be less valuable than a 1st string RB, WR, or top 3 TE. WR being shaky unless there are a few monsters this year. But that's debatable. I think the TE/WR/RB may be something guys would like. I was just shooting for a real "flex play" by including the QB, but that's not at all necessary. Neither are necessary, really, but it might make things easier as players get hurt. __________________ Last edited by shilala; 07-31-2013 at 03:49 PM.