[shilala]

I'm with you 100%, Joe.
I've tried these new and with a good amount of age and both were just flat out awful. I'm not sure if it's the wrapper (which is what I blamed it on) or the blend.
They were lifeless, tasted like bitter hay, and barely reminded of a cigar. If I could compare it to anything, it'd be burning leaves in the Fall, less the pleasant smell.
They just delivered plain, white, bitter smoke.
For the money, a guy would be far better served by something like a 5 Vegas A Gold or something in that ballpark. They're not my cup of tea, but they have a personality.