You're totally right Dave. I never thought of it like that. Absolutely the old me, a reward would be a half dozen donuts for example, but really it wasn't a reward, it was just something to binge on. Now tho, maybe a single dessert after dinner, or a cocktail or beer once every couple of weeks or something would be my idea of a cheat. I don't mean going crazy, and eating 4000 calories in a meal as per your example, but even a single dessert - my concern is that - that single dessert after dinner one night, could lead to a dessert two times a week, then 3, then every night, etc etc. But you're totally right, that it's relative to the lifestyle we're leading, and what our idea of a "cheat" is

- As a former drug addict, I wouldn't go do a line of blow as a reward for anything, because who knows where it could lead - same concern with a piece of pie or a dish of ice cream - truth is i'm scared.