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LISTEN TO WAYNER.....it's called "Intermittent Reinforcement."
You ALWAYS have to love them unconditionally, but rewards should always be random.
Allowance, however is no reward. It is pay for child labor. My dogs are absolutely infuriating
in that a few treats in a row, just cause I bought a bag that month, makes them cuckoo!
They weren't GREETING me, they sniff both hands and THEN feign interest in me being home if
there is no treat. It was not until months of real intermittent reinforcement that I got their
attention and started seeing real improvements in their behavior. They are not my dogs, so
they had been ruined by years of dumb-owner BS.

Another thing, for Duane the OP, remember, kids have no concept of clean. Their rooms are totally
liveable to them, they eat things off the ground, they put filthy hands places they should never
go. You might want to start with the things that do not relate to that concept. It's like asking kids
to pass a French Exam for money. They don't have the concept in place. I would start with jobss
that you do NOW that they can understand the concept of like not leaving anything just dropped,
and that everything has a place. Start by leaving random things that are HUGELY important to them
in places they can't find them. It will make them nuts. Then work on the concept of "NOT where it
belongs". That leads to the concept of clean. Then one day you will find that these little chores get
done. I guess.............I have no kids. I am like a consultant. I know 150 ways to have sex and don't
know any women.