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Originally Posted by HK3-
I think that was the filler and binder that will go into a mold. Later it will have the wrapper put on.  If not, that's got to be a phillies or something crappy like that. |
Sorry, not even close to a phillies or "something crappy" like that.
Many of the nasty mass produced cigars that many eschew are rolled with a processed binder and/or wrapper - tobacco ground very fine and made into a sort of paper which is then used as wrapper and/or binder.
Don't knock the short-filled cigars. There are numerous such out there that are actually very good. Not to mention the mixed filler cigars - cigars made with whole leaf and mixed filler (many perfecto shapes are made this way to et the bulging middle).
Imagine the end clippings from AF Anejos, RP OWRs, Pepins, Padillas, etc... What is done with them? They are made into short fill or mixed filled cigars. And, if hand-rolled with genuine whole-leaf binders and wrappers, they make mighty good cigars.
Many of the mass-produced, machine made cigars though are indeed nasty. Mostly because of what kind of tobacco is used, not because it is short or long, but just because it is nasty.