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smitty81 04-19-2012 08:25 AM

Ammodor question.
 
So I recently converted an ammo can to an ammodor with the help of Forrest (Golfnut). Anywho............someone said that these shouldn't be used for long term storage.

I am curious as to why not?

People use tupperware to store cigars and this wouldn't be any different really.

Any input?

pnoon 04-19-2012 08:42 AM

Re: Ammodor question.
 
Not trying to be flippant, but why not ask the "someone" who said it.
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oooo35980 04-19-2012 02:20 PM

Re: Ammodor question.
 
I was reading a particular website that said coolerdoors and tupperdors are only for short term storage and cigars can only be kept properly in a Spanish cedar humidor. If the humidity and temp are correct, I don't see the problem. But I also don't take a full minute to light my cigars with a bunch of matches or cedar spills, and more often than not I use my pocket knife or my thumbnail to cut my cigar, also I don't take the band off before smoking to avoid showing off, which is supposedly a serious breach in cigar etiquitte, so I'm just doing everything all wrong.

smitty81 04-19-2012 02:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1619994)
Not trying to be flippant, but why not ask the "someone" who said it.
Posted via Mobile Device

Because that particular someone is really busy building stuff for people here and I don't want to bug him anymore than I already have.

jluck 04-19-2012 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty81 (Post 1620273)
Because that particular someone is really busy building stuff for peole here and I don't want to bug him anymore than I already have.

Most vendors (persons) don't mind answering questions especially on sales support.
Shoot him a email.

shilala 04-19-2012 02:27 PM

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One or two of our guys in the sandbox converted them before. Iirc, they're already waterproof? It wouldn't take much of a conversion if they already are.
If there's a rubber gasket, it may need replacing, but that's all.

smitty81 04-19-2012 02:29 PM

Re: Ammodor question.
 
yea, I already converted it shilala. I was just wondering why it's not intended for long term storage...........

shilala 04-19-2012 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty81 (Post 1620286)
yea, I already converted it shilala. I was just wondering why it's not intended for long term storage...........

Jared mentioned something he read, too. It doesn't necessarily make it so. I've personally witnessed the most amazing collection of cc's, one I'm sure will never be equalled in my lifetime, all stored in a huge number of coolers.
I wouldn't worry a bit, my friend.
Make sure it can't get wet enough to rust, clean it up really, really good so there are no oils, and rock on. You may want to throw some sheets of cedar in there or broken up boxes to help add some cedar essence?
I'd use them all day long if I had a pile. I think they'd be an exceptional way to long-store cigars so long as they won't rust.
Got any pics?
I'd like to see how they seal.

smitty81 04-19-2012 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by shilala (Post 1620299)
Jared mentioned something he read, too. It doesn't necessarily make it so. I've personally witnessed the most amazing collection of cc's, one I'm sure will never be equalled in my lifetime, all stored in a huge number of coolers.
I wouldn't worry a bit, my friend.
Make sure it can't get wet enough to rust, clean it up really, really good so there are no oils, and rock on. You may want to throw some sheets of cedar in there or broken up boxes to help add some cedar essence?
I'd use them all day long if I had a pile. I think they'd be an exceptional way to long-store cigars so long as they won't rust.
Got any pics?
I'd like to see how they seal.

Yep, it has 3 trays in it that forrest made.

http://www.wineadors.com/uploads/2/8...ig.jpg?4658082

http://www.wineadors.com/uploads/2/8...92172_orig.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...06033489_o.jpg

jluck 04-19-2012 02:44 PM

Re: Ammodor question.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 1620299)
Jared mentioned something he read, too. It doesn't necessarily make it so. I've personally witnessed the most amazing collection of cc's, one I'm sure will never be equalled in my lifetime, all stored in a huge number of coolers.
I wouldn't worry a bit, my friend.
Make sure it can't get wet enough to rust, clean it up really, really good so there are no oils, and rock on. You may want to throw some sheets of cedar in there or broken up boxes to help add some cedar essence?
I'd use them all day long if I had a pile. I think they'd be an exceptional way to long-store cigars so long as they won't rust.
Got any pics?
I'd like to see how they seal.

Huh?

emopunker2004 04-19-2012 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jluck (Post 1620312)
Huh?

I think he meant just because u read it doesn't make it true

jluck 04-19-2012 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1620317)
I think he meant just because u read it doesn't make it true

Very true statement there just wondering why my name is attached. I added no conjecture.

CigarNut 04-19-2012 02:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 1620299)
Jared mentioned something he read, too. It doesn't necessarily make it so...

Quote:

Originally Posted by jluck (Post 1620312)
Huh?

I think Scott may have been referring to Isaiah (oooo35980):
Quote:

Originally Posted by oooo35980 (Post 1620268)
I was reading a particular website that said coolerdoors and tupperdors are only for short term storage and cigars can only be kept properly in a Spanish cedar humidor. If the humidity and temp are correct, I don't see the problem. But I also don't take a full minute to light my cigars with a bunch of matches or cedar spills, and more often than not I use my pocket knife or my thumbnail to cut my cigar, also I don't take the band off before smoking to avoid showing off, which is supposedly a serious breach in cigar etiquitte, so I'm just doing everything all wrong.


Fia 04-20-2012 01:42 AM

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Well the three trays made with SP should do you fine. I dont see why you couldnt use it for long term storage. I would burp it from time to time to allow for a little fresh air exchange if you arent going into it on a regular basis to grab cigars.

shilala 04-20-2012 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jluck (Post 1620320)
Very true statement there just wondering why my name is attached. I added no conjecture.

Michael is absolutely correct, I got you and Isaiah mixed up. Sorry, my brother!!!
Thanks for covering for me, Michael!!! :tu

shilala 04-20-2012 05:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fia (Post 1620839)
Well the three trays made with SP should do you fine. I dont see why you couldnt use it for long term storage. I would burp it from time to time to allow for a little fresh air exchange if you arent going into it on a regular basis to grab cigars.

That's a really good point. Beads in the bottom to control the humidity down there and a fresh-air burp now and again, and I think it's as cool and useful as they come. The trays are more than enough Spanish Cedar to keep things good forever.
I love it. I think it's wicked cool, especially with the addition of Forrest's trays. I'd probably email Michael and get a Hygroset II for inside the lid to keep an eye on the humidity, but that's just cause I put hygrometers in everything as a rule. I seldom look at them and I usually ignore them when I do, but I like them there when I really want to know what's going on. :tu

Blak Smyth 04-20-2012 05:39 AM

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Wow those trays are great!
The only concern I would have is that it may not work that well for keeping humidity and temp. Being that the walls are thin metal I would guess (Key word is guess) that the outside conditions would greatly effect the inside invironment. As long as it is stored in a steady climate I would think it would be okay? :2
It looks great though, those trays look top notch!

shilala 04-20-2012 05:42 AM

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That's a good point, Shane. A big cold swing would cause water to condense on the inside of the can. I'm guessing it'd be used just like any other humi, not exposed to that sort of thing.

smitty81 04-20-2012 07:28 AM

Re: Ammodor question.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1620881)
Wow those trays are great!
The only concern I would have is that it may not work that well for keeping humidity and temp. Being that the walls are thin metal I would guess (Key word is guess) that the outside conditions would greatly effect the inside environment. As long as it is stored in a steady climate I would think it would be okay? :2
It looks great though, those trays look top notch!

No, these are old US Military ammo cans. They are built to withstand harsh weather and keep everything sealed up inside.

This thing has a rubber lip under the lid and when you clamp it down, you can submerge it in water.

This should hold humidity like a tupperware container . Where I keep this box, it's always cool-cold. Think 75 degrees being the highest temp.

smitty81 04-20-2012 07:33 AM

Re: Ammodor question.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 1620880)
That's a really good point. Beads in the bottom to control the humidity down there and a fresh-air burp now and again, and I think it's as cool and useful as they come. The trays are more than enough Spanish Cedar to keep things good forever.
I love it. I think it's wicked cool, especially with the addition of Forrest's trays. I'd probably email Michael and get a Hygroset II for inside the lid to keep an eye on the humidity, but that's just cause I put hygrometers in everything as a rule. I seldom look at them and I usually ignore them when I do, but I like them there when I really want to know what's going on. :tu

Which Michael??


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