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nexprofit 08-11-2011 07:23 AM

Same Cigar, Different Experience
 
First of all, i am a noob that hasnt been smoking cigars for more than a year yet. I got my first noob trade a couple of weeks ago, and thanks to Chainsaw (Bob), i got some amazing sticks. I smoked a Fuente Short Story, and i was so impressed, that i named it my new 2nd favorite cigar. I went to the local shop, bought a couple from there, and they tasted nothing like the one that Chainsaw sent me.... SO.... does this mean that
1. All cigars, whether they are the same cigar or not, are going to taste different.
2. My experience will be different because of a change in my taste.
3. Chainsaw laced the cigar with rainbows and to make that specific cigar taste better.

Fordman4ever 08-11-2011 07:25 AM

Re: Same Cigar, Different Experience
 
I'm going with option #3

Bill86 08-11-2011 07:29 AM

Re: Same Cigar, Different Experience
 
Could be age.

Could be storage conditions.

Could be you. Sometimes when you first try something it's so great, then the rest aren't as good. This happened to me with CoLas. But they still are damn tasty :tu

pnoon 08-11-2011 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill86 (Post 1370373)
Could be age.

Could be storage conditions.

Could be you. Sometimes when you first try something it's so great, then the rest aren't as good. This happened to me with CoLas. But they still are damn tasty :tu

Bingo.
To expand on Bill's third point, one's frame of mind and food/beverage accompaniment can also effect the experience.

Finally, it could have just been a bad stick.

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Drez 08-11-2011 08:06 AM

Re: Same Cigar, Different Experience
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill86 (Post 1370373)
Could be age.

Could be storage conditions.

Could be you. Sometimes when you first try something it's so great, then the rest aren't as good. This happened to me with CoLas. But they still are damn tasty :tu

Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1370422)
Bingo.
To expand on Bill's third point, one's frame of mind and food/beverage accompaniment can also effect the experience.

Finally, it could have just been a bad stick.

:2
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I agree with both Peter and bill

What I try to do when i find a cigar that I like is I try and and pick up a few more and put one down to rest for about 6 months or longer. I'll also smoke one with say maybe a nice hot cup of coffee and another with a soda or drink.

I play around until I find a combo that works for me. Also come six months or longer when I smoke the one or two I put down I also take into account if the rest improved the smoke to me.

I personally think thats the best part of this hobby / addiction / lifestyle.

Always remember always try and give a cigar a chance or 2 before you write it off.

Devanmc 08-11-2011 08:10 AM

Re: Same Cigar, Different Experience
 
i would blame it on storage condition or add it to the list. many and most shops ive walked into store their flavor infused cigars in with the rest. These infused cigars will change the taste of everything else in the humidor. Atleast from what i am told.

Blak Smyth 08-11-2011 08:13 AM

Re: Same Cigar, Different Experience
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nexprofit (Post 1370355)
First of all, i am a noob that hasnt been smoking cigars for more than a year yet. I got my first noob trade a couple of weeks ago, and thanks to Chainsaw (Bob), i got some amazing sticks. I smoked a Fuente Short Story, and i was so impressed, that i named it my new 2nd favorite cigar. I went to the local shop, bought a couple from there, and they tasted nothing like the one that Chainsaw sent me.... SO.... does this mean that
1. All cigars, whether they are the same cigar or not, are going to taste different.
2. My experience will be different because of a change in my taste.
3. Chainsaw laced the cigar with rainbows and to make that specific cigar taste better.

I would imagine the cigar age and storage condition would be the primary issues here, like everybody else said already.

What is your #1 cigar?

Killian 08-11-2011 08:13 AM

Re: Same Cigar, Different Experience
 
Definitely a change in your taste. Short stories are no good. You better box all of them up and send them to me for immediate disposal.

All kidding aside.....give them some time, come back and enjoy them later.

Bill86 08-11-2011 08:13 AM

Re: Same Cigar, Different Experience
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Devanmc (Post 1370441)
i would blame it on storage condition or add it to the list. many and most shops ive walked into store their flavor infused cigars in with the rest. These infused cigars will change the taste of everything else in the humidor. Atleast from what i am told.

The word is that you CAN store Acids with regulars if you have a walk in of a certain size.

Devanmc 08-11-2011 08:16 AM

Re: Same Cigar, Different Experience
 
had a cigar out of a walk-in the size of an office. it was a gurka black dragon(i was still very much a newb). it tasted sugary and creamy. the owner had the entire acid line in the humidor.

you very well could be right and id assume its the case. but im thinking it would be a very large walk-in

Blak Smyth 08-11-2011 08:20 AM

Re: Same Cigar, Different Experience
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Devanmc (Post 1370459)
had a cigar out of a walk-in the size of an office. it was a gurka black dragon(i was still very much a newb). it tasted sugary and creamy. the owner had the entire acid line in the humidor.

you very well could be right and id assume its the case. but im thinking it would be a very large walk-in

So we should add you to the Gurkha list?:dr

Gurkha infused cigars coming soon, MSRP $97.00 each but I will sell them to you for $3.00 each, cause I like you.

nexprofit 08-11-2011 08:20 AM

Re: Same Cigar, Different Experience
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Drez (Post 1370439)
I agree with both Peter and bill

What I try to do when i find a cigar that I like is I try and and pick up a few more and put one down to rest for about 6 months or longer. I'll also smoke one with say maybe a nice hot cup of coffee and another with a soda or drink.

I play around until I find a combo that works for me. Also come six months or longer when I smoke the one or two I put down I also take into account if the rest improved the smoke to me.

I personally think thats the best part of this hobby / addiction / lifestyle.

Always remember always try and give a cigar a chance or 2 before you write it off.

Ill do that, im gonna lay them to rest, chainsaw must have had a little sleeping bag and pillow for the one he sent, because god dang it was amazing.

Devanmc 08-11-2011 08:21 AM

Re: Same Cigar, Different Experience
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1370462)
So we should add you to the Gurkha list?:dr

no i had one from a different shop shortly after and pitched it like 5 puffs in. :pu never again

Drez 08-11-2011 08:22 AM

Re: Same Cigar, Different Experience
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Devanmc (Post 1370441)
i would blame it on storage condition or add it to the list. many and most shops ive walked into store their flavor infused cigars in with the rest. These infused cigars will change the taste of everything else in the humidor. Atleast from what i am told.

Why acids and other infused sticks can impact the taste of other cigars I believe that a walk in at a b&m won't offer the conditions needed to allow that flavor exchange. Remember the door opening and closing offers a big air exchange within the humidor on top ofthe fact that alot of boxes that are being stored there are sealed and offer very little air exchange. The open boxes take a lot of real estate and I don't think a few open boxes of acids and other infused sticks offer enough of the "smell" to be let out and absorbed by the other cigars.

To my understanding too is that it will take a good amount of time for the cigars to "marry" flavors and if the b&m is fairly busy the stock should move well before that will happen.

Just my :2

nexprofit 08-11-2011 08:22 AM

Re: Same Cigar, Different Experience
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1370447)
I would imagine the cigar age and storage condition would be the primary issues here, like everybody else said already.

What is your #1 cigar?

#1 is the La Flor Dominicana, Factory Press III. if you can find them, get em. theyre on auction today. theyre limited so whats left is slim pickins

nexprofit 08-11-2011 08:26 AM

Re: Same Cigar, Different Experience
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Devanmc (Post 1370459)
had a cigar out of a walk-in the size of an office. it was a gurka black dragon(i was still very much a newb). it tasted sugary and creamy. the owner had the entire acid line in the humidor.

you very well could be right and id assume its the case. but im thinking it would be a very large walk-in

Ive been looking for a damn Black Dragon!
Its on my List of $h!t to smoke

Devanmc 08-11-2011 08:28 AM

Re: Same Cigar, Different Experience
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Drez (Post 1370466)
Why acids and other infused sticks can impact the taste of other cigars I believe that a walk in at a b&m won't offer the conditions needed to allow that flavor exchange. Remember the door opening and closing offers a big air exchange within the humidor on top ofthe fact that alot of boxes that are being stored there are sealed and offer very little air exchange. The open boxes take a lot of real estate and I don't think a few open boxes of acids and other infused sticks offer enough of the "smell" to be let out and absorbed by the other cigars.

To my understanding too is that it will take a good amount of time for the cigars to "marry" flavors and if the b&m is fairly busy the stock should move well before that will happen.

Just my :2



sounds fair enough to me.

yeah this place was uuhhh interesting and very very hard to explain. no boxes just singles(thousands of them, maybe 300 different styles from your various brands) and the "humidification" was this mist sprayer in the ceiling. rooms was the size of a medium sized office. I thought alabama felt humid then i walked into their humidor.

Drez 08-11-2011 08:32 AM

Re: Same Cigar, Different Experience
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Devanmc (Post 1370475)
sounds fair enough to me.

yeah this place was uuhhh interesting and very very hard to explain. no boxes just singles and the "humidification" was this mist sprayer in the ceiling. I thought alabama felt humid then i walked into their humidor.

:r:r

Yea I really think it depends on the b&m. Hell I've smoked cigars from boxes right next to the complete acid line and had zero flavor issues.

Devanmc 08-11-2011 08:34 AM

Re: Same Cigar, Different Experience
 
yeah these were across the room and you could taste it. :td

good to know its not a big issue

N2 GOLD 08-11-2011 10:44 AM

Re: Same Cigar, Different Experience
 
I'm sure Storage conditions & aging & the key factor... -(P


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