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Mister Moo 11-24-2008 06:47 AM

Kona
 
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If there is anything called "Kona Blend" that is worth drinking (anywhere except, maybe, on the island) I never tasted it. I think a Kona blend is pretty much a lie, like Jamaican Blue Mountain.

Sunday: two pounds of green Kona Mountain(tm) (The Love of Aloha) 100% Kona Coffee made it to my doorstep. Rather than fiddle around I went for the gusto and dumped it all into the BBQ-roaster. Nine minutes later the smoke was exploding and the first crack was popping loudly, almost like popcorn. 10 1/2 minutes later the last few snaps were still at it when I dumped the beans into the cooling tower. Color is an even light/medium brown - no hint of surface oil. Kona shines for me when the roast is very light - I may have gone a minute too far with this.

Monday: a pot in the press. It's OK but under-developed. There is the hint of something great coming along in a few days but, right now, it tastes a bit "green" and is mildly astringent.

md4958 11-24-2008 07:18 AM

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We happened upon Bay View Farms on our honeymoon and order regularly. Probably my favorite coffee in the world. That reminds me... I think its time to re-order!

Hardcz 11-24-2008 08:10 AM

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looks sexy man... and your tools...makes me long for a mocha pot..... soon my pretty...soon, I will own one.... damn cigar buying is putting a hamper on my coffee drinking.

Mister Moo 11-24-2008 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Hardcz (Post 84314)
looks sexy man... and your tools...makes me long for a mocha pot..... soon my pretty...soon, I will own one.... damn cigar buying is putting a hamper on my coffee drinking.

I kinda sneaked that Reg Barber tamper into the photo. That's what we call an extra.

novasurf 11-24-2008 01:39 PM

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Quote:

damn cigar buying is putting a hamper on my coffee drinking
Balance grasshopper, balance.

JohnnyFlake 11-24-2008 03:42 PM

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I love Kona Coffee, it's my wife's and my favorite of all time!

I/we have tried at least 15 and maybe even more Kona Blends, and to put it simply, they all suck! I am not positive of the percentage, but I believe the laws involved only require that the mixer contain a minimum of 10% of Kona Bean for it to be called a Kona Blend. That's ridiculous!

Unfortunately, I do not roast, so I buy most of my Kona Coffee (Bean), pre-roasted, from Trader Joe's. For me, it seems to be the best, store bought, Kona Bean around!

ghostrider 11-24-2008 08:32 PM

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Wow. I came home today and decided it was time to roast up a batch of Kona I've been sitting on. Looking forward to sharing some with everyone on Thanksgiving.

Mister Moo 11-24-2008 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ghostrider (Post 85498)
Looking forward to sharing some with everyone on Thanksgiving.

If there is a Spirit of Coffee, you are it.

Mister Moo 11-25-2008 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyFlake (Post 84979)
...I/we have tried ... even more Kona Blends, and to put it simply, they all suck! I am not positive of the percentage, but I believe the laws involved only require that the mixer contain a minimum of 10% of Kona Bean for it to be called a Kona Blend. That's ridiculous!

Kona blend is about as phoney as a three-dollar bill. The first real 100% Kona I had was in Hawaii and, once tasted - never forgotten. No blend I ever tried has anything in common with Kona.

Tuesday morning - the roast is developing. Nuttiness is breaking out everywhere and the flavor is expanding! Keeping Ghostrider philosophy up front I should have peaking Kona for everyone, Thursday-Sunday.

Speaking of phoney as a three-dollar bill, how does every website, coffeeshop and 2-out-of-three grocerystores in America have bags of Jamaican Blue Mountain coffee for sale? And what about the rest of the world? Where does it all come from? JBM is one of those things you ought not to buy unless you personally know the grower or the importer. The initials JBM got yuppy-ized a dozen years ago and now they're like a dirty tattoo on the industy (in my opinion). I'd guess there is way more Kona than JBM grown annually and finding real, 100% Kona out here in the US economy takes a little effort - and just because you find the real deal doesn't necessarily mean the crop was worth drinking.

An annual harvest of only 900 tonnes:
The area on which Blue Mountain can be grown under regulated conditions is limited to 6,000 hectares. Accordingly the harvest is small, and picking is by hand exclusively. Only around 900 tonnes of Blue Mountain Coffee are harvested each year, less than 0.1 per cent of Colombia’s coffee production. It is only once the experts of the Coffee Industry Board of Jamaica (CIB) have certifi ed the select green coffee that it is exported in wooden barrels. Up to 80 per cent of the harvest goes to the Japanese market, where passionate coffee connoisseurs are happy to pay up to USD 10 and more for a cup. The coffee’s intense, clear, almost nutty taste makes it a unique experience. Britain’s Royal Family has savoured this rand cru coffee since the colonial period. And anyone who has read Ian Fleming’s 007 novels knows that the eponymous hero drinks only Blue Mountain Coffee (the author himself lived on Jamaica for many years).

Mister Moo 11-26-2008 01:18 PM

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Kona Wednesday - three days post-roast. The coffee is well developed after a three day rest. It may improve a bit more over the next couple of days but, right now, it has good body and a deep, nutty flavor. Great stuff.

Wharf Rat 11-27-2008 11:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by md4958 (Post 84215)
We happened upon Bay View Farms on our honeymoon and order regularly. Probably my favorite coffee in the world. That reminds me... I think its time to re-order!

Anyone ever tried Kona from Smith Farms?

ghostrider 11-27-2008 12:33 PM

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I've purchased from Smith Farms a couple of times. haven't been disappointed yet.

Mister Moo 11-27-2008 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bborge (Post 89689)
... Smith Farms?

Always reliable. Class act.

novasurf 07-02-2009 04:32 AM

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Unless you get Kona or Jamaican Blue Mountain from certified sources (transparency at all levels of the transaction), caveat emptor.

dannyboy 07-02-2009 04:59 PM

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I never beleived the hype on Kona coffee until I worked on a coffee farm in Kona. Man was it good. My friend (who never drank any coffee because he didn't like it) and I (who drank only heavily altered coffees, i.e. Frappachino and lots of syrups and creamers) were drinking at least a cup of black Kona daily. Sweet, floral and not even a hint of bitterness to be found in the cup! The year after I left the farm, they won best cup in a Kona competition, and it was no surprise to me.

You are correct, Kona blends a real joke. 10% Kona coffee is required, which means that you are drinking 90% cheap beans. I always warn tourists to make sure they get 100% Kona coffee from one of the local coffee shops, if they want to bring some home.

emtsmoker 01-12-2010 07:23 PM

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I love Kona coffee. I had only had local kona blends until i finally ordered some from one of the Hawiian distributors. Cost me $25/lb, but it was well worth it to get the real thing. That has to be my favorite coffee.

jdakine 01-12-2010 07:49 PM

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I have lived in Hawaii for over 30 years and I have had my fare share of Kiona Coffee. 100% Kone is the way to go, it's very expensive and that's why you have so many blends on the market, most people who visist the Islands don't want to spend that kind of money on coffee unless they are true coffee lovers.

The 100% Kona Peaberry is the best IMHO, but way over priced. Put fresh grounds in a French Press and you will have one of the best cups of coffee you will ever drink.

Pistol 07-26-2010 09:16 PM

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Jenn and I just got back from the Big Island, and I bought 10 pounds of beans from Fike Farms and the Greenwell Estate. We toured both farms and had a great time. I can't wait to roast this stuff up! The breakdown was 7 pounds of Fancy beans and 3 pounds of the Peaberry from Greenwell. I can't wait to go back...

Volcodom 07-26-2010 10:50 PM

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I can honestly say I enjoy the "Kona" blend coffee I have tried, however I can tell it's really mostly a farce the taste is slightly more nutty than most other coffee and has the espresso taste I enjoy as a strong coffee. However if I ever do get a chance to try the real deal I'll jump at the opportunity.

kazzaca 10-15-2010 02:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister Moo (Post 86028)
Kona blend is about as phoney as a three-dollar bill. The first real 100% Kona I had was in Hawaii and, once tasted - never forgotten. No blend I ever tried has anything in common with Kona.

Agreed, the Kona blends just aren't the same.

When I got back home from Hawaii I went through withdrawal. I couldn't buy coffee anywhere because nothing was as good as what we were drinking on the islands.


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