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Bill86 06-29-2011 02:35 PM

Edgestar 28 bottle & Humidity
 
New to the whole Edgestar/Vino thing.

I'm still struggling with the Coolidor to edgestar transition. Basically the edgestar holds temperature good. Not humidity though. It's a 28 bottle and I have 2 pounds of beads in it. More than enough. It's at 56 RH/66 temperature right now.

So I tossed in 2 shotglasses of distilled water, a 8oz rocks glass and 4 69 RH boveda packs placed all around the edgestar. Also I put an Oust fan in there for good measure.

I did just recharge the beads as well. So there's really no reason it shouldn't be 65 RH.

It is still at 56-59 RH. I'm not sure why. Suggestions?

I'm waiting on shelves for it, so right now it's just boxes and the Edgestar. No shelves or drawers.

I see that drip spout in the back does occasionally drip a drop or two of water, do I plug it up? Where will the water go if I plug it?

kickerb 06-29-2011 02:51 PM

Re: Edgestar 28 bottle & Humidity
 
I have no experience with these, but I can offer up the first thing that came to my mind.

-Is the door getting a good seal?

Bill86 06-29-2011 02:57 PM

Re: Edgestar 28 bottle & Humidity
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kickerb (Post 1317153)
I have no experience with these, but I can offer up the first thing that came to my mind.

-Is the door getting a good seal?

I thought about that too, here's the thing it's holding temperature.

It's in a 74 degree room, the edgestar is at 65 degrees.

I think the temperature will go down too as the days go on because all the cigars are at ~70 degrees. The edgestar is set to about 62-63 degrees. So it is fighting the higher temperature of the cigars. It's full of cigar too, so it's got a lot to fight.

Before anyone mentions the hygro...it's good. I had it in the coolidor reading 65 RH and 70 degrees. Which is correct.

DPD6030 06-29-2011 03:37 PM

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Bill check this link out. It has some great info.

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showth...highlight=vino

Bill86 06-29-2011 03:47 PM

Re: Edgestar 28 bottle & Humidity
 
So apparently you cannot just store boxes on the bottom? Is this long term or what? I swear I've seen edgestars and vinos without shelves and just boxes. I'll probably still do it till the shelves come in. 7-14 days shouldn't cause any problems.

Still not sure that thread addresses a full issue on humidity....hmmm there's yet another link that says plugging it can solve humidity issues.

Sherlockholms 06-29-2011 04:24 PM

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do you have it plugged?

Bill86 06-29-2011 04:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sherlockholms (Post 1317267)
do you have it plugged?

I was hesitant to do this as there was water in the back tray. I just plugged it now.

I also put in one of the metal shelves to keep the boxes off the floor of the edgestar.

We'll see what happens.

Sherlockholms 06-29-2011 04:29 PM

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I think that will help, I assume its thermoelectric. Plugging the hole will help allot with keeping RH. I have read of people storing boxes on the bottom and the condensation builds up and soaks the boxes. If you put a tray of beads or a bag of beads over the hole it will help to catch some of the moisture.

Bill86 06-29-2011 04:32 PM

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Yeah I put one metal shelf in it for the time being to elevate all of my boxes. So the bottoms got room and there is a 1 lb bag of beads on the bottom.

There is also a 1 lb bag on the top of all my boxes.

The drains plugged with a piece of scotch tape over the hole.

It should be interesting to see if it holds RH now.

borndead1 06-29-2011 04:47 PM

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I have 2 Vinotemp 28s. Plugged the drain holes (no condensation problems ever), made some Spanish Cedar shelves, and I use a Cigar Oasis in both of them. Temp and RH are almost always around 68 degrees and 62-65% RH. I'm not a fan of beads.

It's a fun project, but it does take quite a bit of tweaking and playing around with stuff. But...I guess that's part of the fun. It's like a science fair project for an adult. :D

Bill86 06-29-2011 04:53 PM

Re: Edgestar 28 bottle & Humidity
 
Yeah I'm looking to keep mine at 62-64 RH and 64-65 degrees. Hopefully it all works itself out.

borndead1 06-29-2011 05:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill86 (Post 1317305)
Yeah I'm looking to keep mine at 62-64 RH and 64-65 degrees. Hopefully it all works itself out.

At that temp your unit will run a lot. I tried 65* for a while and the fan hardly ever shut off. Are you trying to prevent beetle eggs from hatching? I wanted the temp low to combat beetles. But now I just freeze every cigar I buy and set the vino to kick on at 70*. Been about 3 yrs now and no beetle problems.

Bill86 06-29-2011 05:08 PM

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Never had beetle problems, I don't ever suspect I will. I'm fine with it running all the time.

Thing is it won't be plugged in for probably 6-8 months out of the year. Just the 4-6 months when it's warm.

borndead1 06-29-2011 05:11 PM

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Ahh, I see. Well, have fun with it man. It's definitely a trial and error project. :D

Bill86 06-29-2011 05:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by borndead1 (Post 1317329)
Ahh, I see. Well, have fun with it man. It's definitely a trial and error project. :D

I've already noticed :D I'm about to rip my hair out already. Coolidors are so much simpler, if only there was an easy way to control temperature in them.

DPD6030 06-29-2011 05:48 PM

Re: Edgestar 28 bottle & Humidity
 
Just send your cigars to me, I'll keep them in my vinotemp. My basement is usually around 62-67 degrees. :D

big a 06-29-2011 07:02 PM

Re: Edgestar 28 bottle & Humidity
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill86 (Post 1317331)
I've already noticed :D I'm about to rip my hair out already. Coolidors are so much simpler, if only there was an easy way to control temperature in them.

I didn't have any problem with mine as i just did what the thread said. I just used tape to close up the plug and let it go. What % of it is filled up with boxes? Mine did get much easier to maintain the more shelves, boxes and cigars i had in it. The bottom gap i filled up with boxes that i broke and threw under there for some extra cedar to help with the humidity. I did use a sponge when seasoning it rather than a shoot glass as i find that works better.

Drez 06-29-2011 07:10 PM

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Bill like i told you. Mine with the drain plug taped up would not rise above 58%. After I removed the tape it and added some water it has gone up to 65% and holding steady.

Like mentioned it trial and error.

Bill86 06-29-2011 07:33 PM

Re: Edgestar 28 bottle & Humidity
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by big a (Post 1317471)
I didn't have any problem with mine as i just did what the thread said. I just used tape to close up the plug and let it go. What % of it is filled up with boxes? Mine did get much easier to maintain the more shelves, boxes and cigars i had in it. The bottom gap i filled up with boxes that i broke and threw under there for some extra cedar to help with the humidity. I did use a sponge when seasoning it rather than a shoot glass as i find that works better.

100% filled with boxes.


Yes I figured it out, Frank took a bit.


Seems plugging the drain was all I had to do, my question is will there be water now inside the unit?

Plugged in at 62-65 degrees.

Drez 06-29-2011 07:44 PM

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Run a piece of clear tape down to a little container to collect the water.

That's how I had it so that it doesn't collect on the bottom of the unit.


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