Dyed Wrappers on Cigars
 

I've heard this discussed several times but never thought much of it myself, but I got nailed with one today that made me think twice.

Since RP's OWR made #8 on CA's Top 25 I decided to pull one out of the humi and give it a shot. I've recently read some post on 'cigar wetting' and with the crazy weather here in GA this time of year my humi was a couple points low (62%) so I decided to try it out.

Well... when I rubbed the cigar this is what I got. Ridiculous. I know there are some that have said they don't care about dyed wrappers but if you've got to doctor your stuff up THIS much then you must be starting with some pretty bad wrapper leaf. And what is in the dye that he's using to get this color???

I sure won't run out to buy anymore RP's in the future.

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That will happen almost all cigars. Wipe a lighter wrapper down with a white cloth and you will see.

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In my experience, although you might get a little bit of rub off on them, they are nothing like this. The picture actually shows it pretty well but it looked like I had furniture stain on my hands.

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wow, that is crazy. I thought you were just joking at firat and going to say something like "haha, joke's on you guys, i just finished staining a table"...

WOW

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The darker the pigment, the more transfer it will have.

I don't remember who it was that posted it but they "wetted" a Cuban and put it in the fridge and it left a significant brown stain on the shelf.

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The thing that gets me about this is people rag on cigarettes for the chemicals in them.

I'm no chemist, but what does burning this pigment produce?

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If a dye is used, it's usually a food grade dye that is safe for consumption. But I'm talking about the natural pigment of the wrapper itself. Think of it like this, what happens when you submerge tea leaves. The water turns brown. Are the tea leaves dyed?

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Cigar wetting FAIL :td

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I see what you're saying on that, coffee is an even better example because of how dark it gets.

However, in order for this to dye my hands instantly it was not the natural pigmentation of the cigar working it's way out of the leaf. This had to be something on the exterior of the leaf rubbing off.

Hmmm, I may need to try some 'lab tests' on this.... :D

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my point exactly, well said!

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FWIW, I am not saying that it wasn't dyed. I'm just saying that happens with almost all cigars. I know it happens with Padrons. I found some 6000 maduros in a b&m with some light mold and the owner let me have them. I took them home and wiped them down with a slightly damp white cloth and they left a nice, ugly brown stain on the cloth instantly.

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Won't argue that.. but isn't that the difference between a physical reaction and a chemical reaction?

I'm talking it being burned, not submersed in water.

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Ah, I see. That's a good question. I haven't a clue. :D I would ask the same of propylene glycol. It's in alot of foods but it's also in alot of tobaccos.

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I'm sure it's fine, but it definitely makes me wonder. :tu

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This is an honest question with no sarcasm.

Would it matter since you do not inhale a cigar? You aren't "ingesting" any of the toxins right?

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Just a guess here but I guess that would be like the nicotine, you don't inhale but it's still absorbed into the body.

Great discussion here!

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I think underneath your tongue is one of the most absorbent spots in all your body. At least I'm pretty sure.

Which is why people put the nitro capsules under their tongue in the event of a heart attack. Also why if my blood sugar goes too low for me to actually eat something (I'm a type 1 diabetic) and I don't have my emergency medication, my wife is to put sugar of some sort underneath my tongue, rather than forcing it down my throat and having me choke to death.

Also Nicotine is ingested without inhaling.

So while the toxins might not contribute to lung cancer, ... as I said it just makes me wonder :confused:

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I've never had this issue, maybe I'll wipe down a couple of cigars just to see what happens

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I've had a CAO black do that to my fingers.

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Correct, underneath your tongue, your cheeks and gum area also absorbs things. We use glucose tubes for diabetics when their blood sugar is low, we put it on a stick and put it between their cheeks and gums.