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Made in Dade 04-01-2009 09:46 AM
Interresting article on the results of S-CHIP
 
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nati...ry/978345.html

landhoney 04-01-2009 10:15 AM
Re: Interresting article on the results of S-CHIP
 
"Paul Hull, an American Cancer Society spokesman in Florida, said tobacco takes such a toll on health care, it's only fair that all companies contribute.

"For the most part, connoisseurs of cigars tend to be in a higher socio-economic class anyway," he said. "It's hard to imagine this will have an effect on them."" - Quote from article

It's hard to imagine this will have an effect on them....heck let's just tax them until they make the median income. :mad:

And I thought cigars were a slippery slope. :rolleyes:

Java 04-01-2009 10:16 AM
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I could say how against this I am, mainly because it affects all of us cigar smokers. But the government does stuff like this all the time. Its wealth redistribution, and frankly I don't feel like starting some long ass thread about why the government makes poor decisions.

Whee 04-01-2009 10:17 AM
Re: Interresting article on the results of S-CHIP
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by landhoney (Post 314475)
"Paul Hull, an American Cancer Society spokesman in Florida, said tobacco takes such a toll on health care, it's only fair that all companies contribute.

"For the most part, connoisseurs of cigars tend to be in a higher socio-economic class anyway," he said. "It's hard to imagine this will have an effect on them."" - Quote from article

It's hard to imagine this will have an effect on them....heck let's just tax them until they make the median income. They are a natural resource that has not been fully tapped, and it has gone untapped for long enough.
:mad:

And I thought cigars were a slippery slope. :rolleyes:
Wow, I feel better to know that I am in a higher socio-economic class. Think he'd call my creditors and tell them that?

What an idiot...

Drat 04-01-2009 10:18 AM
Re: Interresting article on the results of S-CHIP
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by landhoney (Post 314475)
"For the most part, connoisseurs of cigars tend to be in a higher socio-economic class anyway," he said. "It's hard to imagine this will have an effect on them."" - Quote from article
Wow, somebody's reality is warped by movies and cartoons. We're all evil villains who wear capes too...

Java 04-01-2009 10:20 AM
Re: Interresting article on the results of S-CHIP
 
My guess is he isn't a cigar smoker.

shortstory5 04-01-2009 10:21 AM
Re: Interresting article on the results of S-CHIP
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by landhoney (Post 314475)
"For the most part, connoisseurs of cigars tend to be in a higher socio-economic class anyway," he said. "It's hard to imagine this will have an effect on them."" - Quote from article
Wow. This was just a terribly ignorant thing to say...

Made in Dade 04-01-2009 10:30 AM
Re: Interresting article on the results of S-CHIP
 
I see it everyday, not everyone that smokes cigars have alot of money. I know many people who don't spend over $4 a cigar.

Java, you are correct our gov't does $hit like this all the time.

Smokin Gator 04-01-2009 10:31 AM
Re: Interresting article on the results of S-CHIP
 
I loath when I hear someone talking about a business/industry being taxed!!! Business do not pay taxes... they pass them on. People pay taxes.

G G 04-01-2009 10:32 AM
Re: Interresting article on the results of S-CHIP
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smokin Gator (Post 314508)
I loath when I hear someone talking about a business/industry being taxed!!! Business do not pay taxes... they pass them on. People pay taxes.
:tpd:

landhoney 04-01-2009 10:34 AM
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"The cigar industry has pretty much gotten a free ride for decades," said Paul Hull, a vice president with the society's (Cancer) Florida division. "Increasing the prices reduces consumption. We consider that a major win."

From an '07 article:

http://cache.zoominfo.com/CachedPage...&lastName=Hull

Made in Dade 04-01-2009 10:38 AM
Re: Interresting article on the results of S-CHIP
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by landhoney (Post 314513)
"The cigar industry has pretty much gotten a free ride for decades," said Paul Hull, a vice president with the society's (Cancer) Florida division. "Increasing the prices reduces consumption. We consider that a major win."

From an '07 article:

http://cache.zoominfo.com/CachedPage...&lastName=Hull
Good find Seth

WildBlueSooner 04-01-2009 12:03 PM
Re: Interresting article on the results of S-CHIP
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by illinoishoosier (Post 314480)
Wow, I feel better to know that I am in a higher socio-economic class. Think he'd call my creditors and tell them that?

What an idiot...
WE'RE ALL RICH!

http://static.pyzam.com/img/funnypic...le/richguy.jpg

Beer Doctor 04-01-2009 01:16 PM
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Quote:
This may not be the last cigar price hike. Legislatures in several states, including New York, Wisconsin and California, are considering raising their state tobacco tax to help in the wake of declining revenue.
:bs

Jbailey 04-01-2009 01:40 PM
Re: Interresting article on the results of S-CHIP
 
I know they want to double MI tobacco tax from 32% to 64%! :bs

I know I'm by no means in a higher higher socio-economic class. I do agree with
Quote:
Originally Posted by Drat (Post 314484)
Wow, somebody's reality is warped by movies and cartoons. We're all evil villains who wear capes too...
and lumping everyone in the same group. (not to self stop wearing my cape)

I've been hearing how the FDA will soon be in charge of tobacco and again adding another tax to help pay for for all those new jobs. Got love a tax on a tax on a tax on a tax.

Tio Gato 04-01-2009 03:01 PM
Re: Interresting article on the results of S-CHIP
 
Thanks for sharing this Miami Herald story.
I remember when I was little asking my Dad why everyone was so mad at Fidel Castro. He said it was because everyone supported him for change, but when he won, he turned out to be a communist.
It's deja vu all over again.:mad:

Oh I've got to run, I can't seem to find any of the domestic staff to flick the ash on my affluent connoisseur cigar! Prehaps I'll hire one of those parents who has uninsured kids to flick my ash. Then they can buy their own health insurance and not put any of the hard working people in this story out of work!

poker 04-01-2009 03:05 PM
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Lets not turn this into something ugly.

Lets leave any politics or political views out of this.

Tio Gato 04-01-2009 03:36 PM
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Oppps!
Sorry 'bout that. I was going down that road for sure. I feel so :bh that I get so :fl that I wanna :pu.


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