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Blueface 03-31-2009 03:28 PM
Pack your bags for Cuba!!!
 
Just heard in the news in South Florida.
Found this article.
Seems two bills introduced to allow Americans to travel to Cuba.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/31/cuba.travel/

Let's see what happens.

Footbag 03-31-2009 03:32 PM
Re: Pack your bags for Cuba!!!
 
The VP made some interesting comments in the past few days as well. First he said the embargo will not be lifted soon, but then he implied they are willing to lift the embargo but want human/civil rights concessions from Cuba.

Either way, I expect to get a much clearer idea of whats going on during next months Latin America summit. This is where the real news will be made.

Jbailey 03-31-2009 03:34 PM
Re: Pack your bags for Cuba!!!
 
Very cool Carlos, maybe we can plan a Cuba herf sometime down the road.

GreekGodX 03-31-2009 03:34 PM
Re: Pack your bags for Cuba!!!
 
I don't need to travel to Cuba (they don't allow internet access which would be brutal on my time there) they just need to lift the trade embargo!

The Communist government is killing the citizens of Cuba. They have had some high praise from other countries on their contributions to other countries (ie Nelson Mandela). Now if they could just understand how to treat their own, the embargo would be lifted.

Footbag 03-31-2009 03:35 PM
Re: Pack your bags for Cuba!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jbailey (Post 313001)
Very cool Carlos, maybe we can plan a Cuba herf sometime down the road.
Cuba HERF! I'm so there!:tu

karmaz00 03-31-2009 03:35 PM
Re: Pack your bags for Cuba!!!
 
interesting to see

Blueface 03-31-2009 03:36 PM
Re: Pack your bags for Cuba!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreekGodX (Post 313003)
they don't allow internet access which would be brutal on my time there
Just wait and see what happens with that the moment US travel is allowed.
Besides, Cubans have internet. Just not legally.

Blueface 03-31-2009 03:37 PM
Re: Pack your bags for Cuba!!!
 
For me, things changed recently allowing me to go once a year.
Problem is I have to go with a Cuban passport, not recognized as a US Citizen.
I have worked too hard my whole life and have my whole family near me to risk that.

Footbag 03-31-2009 03:40 PM
Re: Pack your bags for Cuba!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreekGodX (Post 313003)
I don't need to travel to Cuba (they don't allow internet access which would be brutal on my time there) they just need to lift the trade embargo!

The Communist government is killing the citizens of Cuba. They have had some high praise from other countries on their contributions to other countries (ie Nelson Mandela). Now if they could just understand how to treat their own, the embargo would be lifted.
Hotel Nacional has Internet in Executive/business offices, but not in-room.

GreekGodX 03-31-2009 03:47 PM
Re: Pack your bags for Cuba!!!
 
The point is internet is not readily available like it is here. Cuba doesn't allow its citizens to have internet. Between my Blackberry/Ipod Touch/Laptop I'm always connected in some way. It was a sarcastic comment as I would definitely visit if I could. I have relatives from Canada who have been and love it.

I just don't see how they could lift the travel embargo and not lift the trade embargo. As I understand it is illegal for an American to buy any Cuban product. If you are traveling in Cuba and there is still a trade embargo, you would be breaking the law with any purchase.

Blueface 03-31-2009 03:48 PM
Re: Pack your bags for Cuba!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreekGodX (Post 313021)
I just don't see how they could lift the travel embargo and not lift the trade embargo. As I understand it is illegal for an American to buy any Cuban product. If you are traveling in Cuba and there is still a trade embargo, you would be breaking the law with any purchase.
I would venture to safely say both are gone with this bill.
You cannot say you cannot spend money in Cuba or on Cuban products but you can travel there.
By virtue of travel there, you have to spend money on their economy.

I am ready.
Travel first week visiting where wife and I grew up (La Habana for me, Pinal del Rio/Vuelta Abajo area for her) and seeing family.
Second week? HERF!!!

GreekGodX 03-31-2009 03:52 PM
Re: Pack your bags for Cuba!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 313011)
For me, things changed recently allowing me to go once a year.
Problem is I have to go with a Cuban passport, not recognized as a US Citizen.
I have worked too hard my whole life and have my whole family near me to risk that.
By going back to Cuba once a year, what is the limit on length of stay? Also I'm unfamiliar with the military laws there, but if you are there for an extended time could they take you into the army? Are there other reasons they can keep you from coming back to the U.S?

My Father was born in Greece and left before he did his mandatory time in the Greek Army (so that he could attend an American college, not dodge the gov). In Greece all born, male citizens have to serve in the army for 3years (I'm pretty sure on the time). Is this similar in Cuba?

Blueface 03-31-2009 03:57 PM
Re: Pack your bags for Cuba!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreekGodX (Post 313030)
By going back to Cuba once a year, what is the limit on length of stay? Also I'm unfamiliar with the military laws there, but if you are there for an extended time could they take you into the army? Are there other reasons they can keep you from coming back to the U.S?

Until recently, travel time there was limited to 10 days.
Now, unlimited, but you need to secure a permit for the time through the Treasury Department. As to what they could do with you, who knows? That is why I don't go. I don't know what it is they may end up choosing to do with me and won't have the US to back me.

My Father was born in Greece and left before he did his mandatory time in the Greek Army (so that he could attend an American college, not dodge the gov). In Greece all born, male citizens have to serve in the army for 3years (I'm pretty sure on the time). Is this similar in Cuba?
Until recently, travel time there was limited to 10 days.
Now, unlimited, but you need to secure a permit for the time through the Treasury Department. As to what they could do with you, who knows? That is why I don't go. I don't know what it is they may end up choosing to do with me and won't have the US to back me.

Cuba not only has mandatory military for all but also has mandatory sugar cane cutting for all. Young kids are taken to the sugar cane fields as part of a government program that all feel patriotic about doing. Or better yet, are told they are patriotic about doing.

Blueface 03-31-2009 03:59 PM
Re: Pack your bags for Cuba!!!
 
Holy Cow!!!

I figured it out.

The new tobacco tax?
Open relations with Cuba?
Cuban tobacco products legally imported?
Taxes on that tobacco?

WOW!!!

Get those Siglo VI and EL's before they cost more than a SMART car.

M1903A1 03-31-2009 04:27 PM
Re: Pack your bags for Cuba!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 313035)
Holy Cow!!!

I figured it out.

The new tobacco tax?
Open relations with Cuba?
Cuban tobacco products legally imported?
Taxes on that tobacco?

WOW!!!

Get those Siglo VI and EL's before they cost more than a SMART car.
You mean somebody in Washington is finally THINKING? :eek: :rolleyes: :ss

MedicCook 03-31-2009 04:32 PM
Re: Pack your bags for Cuba!!!
 
Does anyone mind packing me in their checked luggage?

Blueface 03-31-2009 04:35 PM
Re: Pack your bags for Cuba!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 313096)
Does anyone mind packing me in their checked luggage?
:r
No way.
I will need the room to sneak in some non-Cubans in case all I find there are plugged.:r

Footbag 03-31-2009 04:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 313096)
Does anyone mind packing me in their checked luggage?
I don't mind, I'll be bringing an extra empty suitcase. But it's gonna be full for the return trip!:ss

MedicCook 03-31-2009 04:39 PM
Re: Pack your bags for Cuba!!!
 
I won't mind staying down there. Maybe meet me a beautiful Cuban woman. :r

Cyanide 03-31-2009 04:47 PM
Re: Pack your bags for Cuba!!!
 
You know, if all these Americans start going to Cuba, its going to drive the prices up for my cigars!

Maybe you guys down south need to force another vote. ;)


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