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BengalMan 10-14-2008 08:40 PM

Official MMA Thread
 
Figured I would get this started up here.

Chris Leben vs. Mike Bisping this weekend. Thoughts?

I'm taking Leben in this one to upset the undefeated Bisping. Leben by KO in the 2nd.

NCRadioMan 10-15-2008 09:41 AM

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I hope Leban wins but there will be alot of home cooking for Bisping.

Diego Sanchez has torn rib cartlidge and is out of UFC 90 against Thiago Alves. Josh Koschek is now in. Even though I am a fan of Diego, I think this is a better fight.

Anderson Silva has virtually set a date for retirement!

Quote:

by Marcelo Alonso (malonso@sherdog.com)

The talk started in late September.

That’s when Anderson Silva, the UFC middleweight champion regarded by many as the No. 1 pound-for-pound fighter in the world, said on a Brazilian TV show that he was going to retire in 2009.

Silva’s manager, Ed Soares, explained that his fighter would finish out the six remaining bouts on his UFC contract. Although Soares’ statement seemed to appease some fans, others understood that Silva’s retirement could still come soon even if he fights six more times.

“Everything has its time,” Silva told Sherdog.com in an exclusive video interview, “and I believe my time is already over.”

So what would be Silva’s next move if he does retire? Boxing maybe? Coaching?

“I’m going to be fat, with a big belly by the side of the Octagon, eating popcorn behind the scenes, making my imitations and screaming for the fighters: “Go there! Kick his face! Put him down!”

Silva, who is famous around the Brazilian fight scene for his uncanny impersonations of fighters and trainers, also discussed with Sherdog.com whether compensation has played a role in his decision as well as whether he has been motivated to train for his title defense against Patrick Cote on Oct. 25 at UFC 90.
UFC 89 card for this Saturday from the National Indoor Arena,
Birmingham, England:

Michael Bisping vs. Chris Leben
Brandon Vera vs. Keith Jardine
Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou vs. Luis Arthur Cane
Chris Lytle vs. Paul Taylor
Marcus Davis vs. Paul Kelly
Dan Hardy vs. Akihiro Gono
Jim Miller vs. David Baron
Shane Carwin vs. Neil Wain
Sam Stout vs. Terry Etim
Per Eklund vs. Samy Schiavo
Jess Liaudin vs. David Bielkheden

UFC 90 next Saturday from the Allstate Arean in Chicago:

Anderson Silva vs. Patrick Cote
Thiago Alves vs. Josh Koschek
Sean Sherk vs. Tyson Griffin
Fabricio Werdum vs. Junior dos Santos
Thales Leites vs. Goran Reljic
Spencer Fisher vs. Melvin Guillard
Gray Maynard vs. Rich Clementi
Hermes Franca vs. Gleison Tibau
Matt Horwich vs. Ricardo Almeida
Pete Sell vs. Josh Burkman

kgoings 10-15-2008 09:44 AM

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There are some great fights coming up in the next couple UFC's

TUFF is getting on my nerves, some good fighters but it has become all about the Drama. That blond kid looked like he had some serious skills and now his going to blow it. :bh

NCRadioMan 10-15-2008 09:52 AM

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Yeah, that kid is messed up. He should get the boot tonight after climbing the cage and acting like an idiot.

TriStar 10-15-2008 06:11 PM

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Junie better be gone tonight!!

e22byrnes 10-15-2008 06:16 PM

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I'm excited to see Tamdan Mccrory fight at UFC91. I trained at his school here in Binghamton for a while, and he is a good young fighter. I'm also even more excited to see Jon Jones to fight Stephan Bonnar in his return at UFC 94. Jon went to high school at my school's rival and we always wrestled against him. He was a great kid though and one of the only kids on that team I didn't despise.

Anyone else have ties to fighters currently on one of the big stages?

TriStar 10-15-2008 06:29 PM

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I train at Tristar Gym in Montreal. That's where Georges St-Pierre and David Loiseau train. Patrick Coté also makes an appearence once in awhile.

Tw3nty 10-15-2008 07:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NCRadioMan (Post 5066)
Yeah, that kid is messed up. He should get the boot tonight after climbing the cage and acting like an idiot.



Keep the kid. He is great for ratings. Maybe next time he will cute himself up and have to fight all messed up. The show is designed to make the fighters crazy. Let them b crazy then.

Tw3nty 10-15-2008 07:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BengalMan (Post 2419)
Figured I would get this started up here.

Chris Leben vs. Mike Bisping this weekend. Thoughts?

I'm taking Leben in this one to upset the undefeated Bisping. Leben by KO in the 2nd.

I like Leben, another crazy guy, but I thing Bisping will be too much for him. Leben is one dimensional and stubborn. He sticks to a fight path even if it is gonna fail him.

NCRadioMan 10-15-2008 09:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tw3nty (Post 8636)
Keep the kid. He is great for ratings. Maybe next time he will cute himself up and have to fight all messed up. The show is designed to make the fighters crazy. Let them b crazy then.

Drama queen! :p

Comicbookfreak 10-15-2008 09:06 PM

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Woulda been funny if Nog would took Junie down when he jumped the fence and submited him. Kids got very bad decision making skills.

Tw3nty 10-15-2008 09:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NCRadioMan (Post 9035)
Drama queen! :p




Its a tv show. Gotta love the drama baby. Plus, its the English teacher in me. Got to support the writers on the show.

TriStar 10-15-2008 09:12 PM

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I hope he get's an a$$ wooping next week lol. If Delgado's black belt in bjj isn't bogus, I'd love to see him get an arm-bar on Junie :D Probably won't happen though, Junie does look tough for a lightweight.

Tw3nty 10-15-2008 09:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TriStar (Post 9117)
I hope he get's an a$$ wooping next week lol. If that guy's black belt in bjj isn't bogus, I'd love to see him get an arm-bar on Junie :D Probably won't happen though, Junie does look tough for a lightweight.



I think he beats Junie. He looked real solid in his other fight.

TriStar 10-15-2008 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Tw3nty (Post 9128)
I think he beats Junie. He looked real solid in his other fight.

Ya he did. We'll see what happens. If Junie can't back his crap up, I will feel embarrassed for him. Looks like he struggles to cut weight too..

Tw3nty 10-15-2008 09:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TriStar (Post 9155)
Ya he did. We'll see what happens. If Junie can't back his crap up, I will feel embarrassed for him. Looks like he struggles to cut weight too..



agreed. I will watch tonight's in a little while. I record them. Don't tell me what happened.

Hudaddy 10-15-2008 09:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tw3nty (Post 8643)
I like Leben, another crazy guy, but I thing Bisping will be too much for him. Leben is one dimensional and stubborn. He sticks to a fight path even if it is gonna fail him.


Leben has one power move. Hit the other guys fists as hard as he can with his big giant melon.

He's got heavy hands, a big boulder of a noggin, but short alligator arms.

I think Bisping is gonna take him.

BengalMan 10-15-2008 09:33 PM

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Nice to see this thread up and running! I left this morning and there were no posts, now there is 16!

TriStar 10-15-2008 09:45 PM

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Well everyone needs to get their post count up now since the slate was wiped clean lol :r :chr

phidelt076 10-16-2008 12:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NCRadioMan (Post 5066)
Yeah, that kid is messed up. He should get the boot tonight after climbing the cage and acting like an idiot.

What ended up happening? My DVR cut off right as he got over the cage.

Comicbookfreak 10-16-2008 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by phidelt076 (Post 9786)
What ended up happening? My DVR cut off right as he got over the cage.

Nog pretty much just restrained him and he didn't get kicked off the show. Dana said he was lucky because the Athletic Commishioner happened not to be there or the Commish probably would have made him go home.

BengalMan 10-17-2008 11:38 AM

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I think Krystoff has a good chance of winning at 205 this season.

Tw3nty 10-17-2008 12:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BengalMan (Post 15884)
I think Krystoff has a good chance of winning at 205 this season.



I think the show has purposely not shown all of us the fighters. I think it is a little early to decide the best fighter. But, Krystoff does look good.

VirtualSmitty 10-17-2008 01:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tw3nty (Post 16073)
I think the show has purposely not shown all of us the fighters. I think it is a little early to decide the best fighter. But, Krystoff does look good.

:tpd: Agreed :usa

NCRadioMan 10-18-2008 09:49 AM

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UFC 89 card for tonight from the National Indoor Arena,
Birmingham, England:

Michael Bisping vs. Chris Leben
Brandon Vera vs. Keith Jardine
Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou vs. Luis Arthur Cane
Chris Lytle vs. Paul Taylor
Marcus Davis vs. Paul Kelly
Dan Hardy vs. Akihiro Gono
Jim Miller vs. David Baron
Shane Carwin vs. Neil Wain
Sam Stout vs. Terry Etim
Per Eklund vs. Samy Schiavo
Jess Liaudin vs. David Bielkheden

Prediction winners in bold. Who you got?

BengalMan 10-18-2008 12:47 PM

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Honestly, the I have the exact same as you do. Nice picks.

NCRadioMan 10-18-2008 01:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BengalMan (Post 18581)
Honestly, the I have the exact same as you do. Nice picks.

Great minds and all. :tu

It's actually live right now but since I am at work I will settle for the replay.

Jdbwolverines 10-18-2008 05:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TriStar (Post 8089)
I train at Tristar Gym in Montreal. That's where Georges St-Pierre and David Loiseau train. Patrick Coté also makes an appearence once in awhile.

Cote, got any tricks up his sleeve for Silva next weekend. While, I like him quite a bit, I don't think he has any shot against Silva unless Anderson completely under prepares for him.

Ron1YY 10-18-2008 07:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NCRadioMan (Post 18204)
UFC 89 card for tonight from the National Indoor Arena,
Birmingham, England:

Michael Bisping vs. Chris Leben
Brandon Vera vs. Keith Jardine
Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou vs. Luis Arthur Cane
Chris Lytle vs. Paul Taylor
Marcus Davis vs. Paul Kelly
Dan Hardy vs. Akihiro Gono
Jim Miller vs. David Baron
Shane Carwin vs. Neil Wain
Sam Stout vs. Terry Etim
Per Eklund vs. Samy Schiavo
Jess Liaudin vs. David Bielkheden

Prediction winners in bold. Who you got?

I'm with you except for the Bisping fight. Other than that, we're right there



Ron

Tw3nty 10-18-2008 08:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NCRadioMan (Post 18688)
Great minds and all. :tu

It's actually live right now but since I am at work I will settle for the replay.




Where will u watch the replay so I can hope on too?

LordOfWu 10-18-2008 08:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TriStar (Post 8089)
I train at Tristar Gym in Montreal. That's where Georges St-Pierre and David Loiseau train. Patrick Coté also makes an appearence once in awhile.

Do you train MMA or something more specific? Just curious if you're training to fight...

I am currently training Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu at Colorado BJJ with Big Mike Nickels, from the third season of TUFF. I am not training to fight, I'm just doing the BJJ stuff cause I love it.

NCRadioMan 10-18-2008 08:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tw3nty (Post 19313)
Where will u watch the replay so I can hope on too?

The replay is on Spike now. It was streaming live at 3pm today. It will replay again on Spike at 12:30 AM eastern.

Sokoudjou just got beat up. He didn't look like himself, to me.

Ron1YY 10-18-2008 08:34 PM

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Good card so far!!!!

The Lytle-Taylor fight was GREAT!!!!!


Ron

NCRadioMan 10-18-2008 08:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron1YY (Post 19373)
Good card so far!!!!

The Lytle-Taylor fight was GREAT!!!!!


Ron

It was! Although, I didn't think Lytle won every round. Lytle should have taken him down early and subbed him, imo.

Ron1YY 10-18-2008 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan (Post 19400)
It was! Although, I didn't think Lytle won every round. Lytle should have taken him down early and subbed him, imo.

Truth be said, I don't think he won the fight.


Ron

NCRadioMan 10-18-2008 08:49 PM

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It was very close but I think he won the first two rounds. The last round was bad for him and I would like to smoke whatever that judge was smoking to give him that round.

TriStar 10-18-2008 08:55 PM

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Wow what a sick first round of the Jardine fight.

Ron1YY 10-18-2008 08:56 PM

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Vera - Jardine is looking good too

NCRadioMan 10-18-2008 09:11 PM

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As good as the first round was the next two were lackluster. I think this one should be a draw. Jardine in the first, Vera in second and even in the third.

Ron1YY 10-18-2008 09:15 PM

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At least it was a valid split

NCRadioMan 10-18-2008 09:16 PM

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Agreed. You need an avatar Ron. You look naked. :r

Ron1YY 10-18-2008 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan (Post 19464)
Agreed. You need an avatar Ron. You look naked. :r

Still copying stuff from somewhere else......


Beside, I like naked :r

NCRadioMan 10-18-2008 09:23 PM

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Why doesn't that surprise me. http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra.../smilielol.gif

TriStar 10-18-2008 09:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LordOfWu (Post 19322)
Do you train MMA or something more specific? Just curious if you're training to fight...

I am currently training Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu at Colorado BJJ with Big Mike Nickels, from the third season of TUFF. I am not training to fight, I'm just doing the BJJ stuff cause I love it.

I box at the gym. I train for the sport and self defense. Before that I did Tea Kwon Do. I love sparring and do it for the exercise. I don't have any plans to fight, concentrating on school and working is enough on plate. I do plan to start Vale Tudo maybe next summer. I would need to take some private lessons in BJJ and wrestling first.

The ring, mats and bags are shared side by side with the guys training MMA/Vale Tudo. It's a huge space of maybe 75 people on a given week night with two rings. I take part in a 20 person training session and St-Pierre can be rolling on the mats across the room with his partners when he's in town.

Ron1YY 10-18-2008 09:47 PM

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Bisping is picking him apart.

NCRadioMan 10-18-2008 09:52 PM

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I was getting ready to post the same thing.

BengalMan 10-19-2008 03:47 PM

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Leben looks like the lost his killer instinct. It seems to me that he threw out his game plan that got him to where he is now, and that's letting his hands go. I can't even count how many time Leben had Bisping hurt with a big hit, and instead of following up, stayed back and let things calm down. Leben needs a good mix between his previous style, and his current technical style. Until he finds that, he will not win.

As far as Bisping goes, he has already been named one of the next TUF coaches. The other coach is between Rich Franklin and Hendo. Since Rich has already done TUF and has recently moved to 205, it's almost a lock that Hendo will be the other coach, making a Bisping vs Hendo fight which is kinda ****ed, since IMO, Bisping should be fighting Anderson next.

LordOfWu 10-19-2008 08:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BengalMan (Post 20858)
Leben looks like the lost his killer instinct. It seems to me that he threw out his game plan that got him to where he is now, and that's letting his hands go. I can't even count how many time Leben had Bisping hurt with a big hit, and instead of following up, stayed back and let things calm down. Leben needs a good mix between his previous style, and his current technical style. Until he finds that, he will not win.

As far as Bisping goes, he has already been named one of the next TUF coaches. The other coach is between Rich Franklin and Hendo. Since Rich has already done TUF and has recently moved to 205, it's almost a lock that Hendo will be the other coach, making a Bisping vs Hendo fight which is kinda ****ed, since IMO, Bisping should be fighting Anderson next.

I could see Bisping fighting Anderson but I think that fighting Hendo will prove that he's ready for that fight. I think it's a good call, to get Bisping a good fight at the highest level before fighting someone like Anderson. Not a knock on Bisping, but I don't think anyone he's fought could be considered at that level. :2

BengalMan 10-20-2008 06:25 PM

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Agreed Wu!

chippewastud79 10-21-2008 10:17 AM

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Koscheck unafraid of uphill climb

Koscheck agrees to two fights in six weeks. Koscheck v. Alvez Oct. 25 and then Koscheck v. Yoshida Dec. 10th. It sounds like if he can with them both he gets a shot at the winner of the Penn v. St. Pierre fight for the belt. :eek: :bx

I don't know much about trainning but I know that is going to be a fricken bear to accomplish. :hm


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