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pnoon 02-05-2017 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Yamasa (Post 2116074)

Sorry, Sir. That is mold.

Yamasa 02-06-2017 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 2116092)
Sorry, Sir. That is mold.

Fair enough, however could you tell me why all the material I have seen from cigar makers lists tobacco mold on cigars as a distinctive blue colour?

Also, mold is not hard and crystalline as these speckles are, I have smoked them and the crystals do not degenerate or disappear until either licked (at which point they taste like cane sugar) or smoked again, taste like cane).

Perhaps one man's mold is anothers' bloom.:D

T.G 02-06-2017 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Yamasa (Post 2116074)

Sorry, that's mold.

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Originally Posted by Yamasa (Post 2116075)
You can send me the Behikes now.:noon

Don't hold your breath kid.

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Originally Posted by Yamasa (Post 2116105)
Fair enough, however could you tell me why all the material I have seen from cigar makers lists tobacco mold on cigars as a distinctive blue colour?

Also, mold is not hard and crystalline as these speckles are, I have smoked them and the crystals do not degenerate or disappear until either licked (at which point they taste like cane sugar) or smoked again, taste like cane).

Perhaps one man's mold is anothers' bloom.:D

Mold comes in various colors. White is fairly common actually. Mold forms unevenly and tends to be splotchy, exactly like the cigars you took a photo of.

You could be dealing with old mold, basically happened some time ago, then the humidity issue was corrected, and the colony stopped growing and dried up. Think of a standing dead tree.

Perhaps ignorance is bliss to the misinformed and inexperienced.

icehog3 02-06-2017 09:31 AM

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The few times I have received moldy cigars from a vendor, the mold has been white.

pnoon 02-06-2017 11:46 AM

Re: Beginner Questions (Ask Them Here!)
 
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Originally Posted by Yamasa (Post 2116105)
Fair enough, however could you tell me why all the material I have seen from cigar makers lists tobacco mold on cigars as a distinctive blue colour?

Also, mold is not hard and crystalline as these speckles are, I have smoked them and the crystals do not degenerate or disappear until either licked (at which point they taste like cane sugar) or smoked again, taste like cane).

Perhaps one man's mold is anothers' bloom.:D

Seriously?!?!?!?
Can you point us to such material? If it is blue (or green), it is mold. No pics necessary for that. Cigar makers/retailers telling you that are trying to sell you their $hit.

Yamasa 02-06-2017 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 2116107)
Sorry, that's mold.



Don't hold your breath kid.



Mold comes in various colors. White is fairly common actually. Mold forms unevenly and tends to be splotchy, exactly like the cigars you took a photo of.

You could be dealing with old mold, basically happened some time ago, then the humidity issue was corrected, and the colony stopped growing and dried up. Think of a standing dead tree.

Perhaps ignorance is bliss to the misinformed and inexperienced.

Perhaps

AdamJoshua 02-06-2017 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Yamasa (Post 2116139)
Perhaps

I would suggest you stop licking those cigars though :lr

AdamJoshua 02-06-2017 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AdamJoshua (Post 2116140)
I would suggest you stop licking those cigars though :lr

This is from the very first link googling cigar mold. From JRcigars.

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What is Mold?

Most of us are familiar with the look of mold after discovering it on old bread or leftovers that stayed in the fridge too long. The type that affects cigars is very similar. Unlike plume, mold can present itself in an array of unattractive colors including green, yellow, gray, blue and white. Mold is such a menace to your collection because this nasty substance is alive – it can grow and spread.
Edit: Adding link.

https://www.jrcigars.com/blending-ro...me/2015/06/22/

Yamasa 02-06-2017 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AdamJoshua (Post 2116141)
This is from the very first link googling cigar mold. From JRcigars.



Edit: Adding link.

https://www.jrcigars.com/blending-ro...me/2015/06/22/

Well, I guess there are differing opinions by people more knowledgeable than I am.
http://www.cigars4dummies.com/cigar-...on-cigars.html

Here are pictures describing the difference between white mold and white spots - Plume or bloom. Decide for yourselves.
Does it really matter in the long run? As long as it is white, small, crystalline, and hard, if they smoke and taste really good I'll smoke 'em.:D

T.G 02-06-2017 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Yamasa (Post 2116155)
Well, I guess there are differing opinions by people more knowledgeable than I am.
http://www.cigars4dummies.com/cigar-...on-cigars.html

Here are pictures describing the difference between white mold and white spots - Plume or bloom. Decide for yourselves.
Does it really matter in the long run? As long as it is white, small, crystalline, and hard, if they smoke and taste really good I'll smoke 'em.:D

mk05, is that you?

pnoon 02-06-2017 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 2116178)
mk05, is that you?

Be nice.

Yamasa 02-06-2017 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 2116178)
mk05, is that you?

Sorry, I don't know who that is.
Given the next post perhaps it is for the better.

RevSmoke 02-06-2017 09:17 PM

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I have seen (in my 37 years smoking cigars) plume & mold.

Plume (or bloom) are oils natural to the tobacco, that rise to the surface and crystalize, usually it is spotty (little spots), more like little spots of dust.

Mold is more fuzzy, but can be less so, and usually covers more of a cigar, maybe the whole thing.

Given the picture shown, I am more inclined to say mold. But, without a more magnified picture, and Alstair's comments I am less certain it is mold.

That being said, I'd be suspect of what I see in the pictures as I see it.

Just my $.02.

RevSmoke 02-06-2017 09:19 PM

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Another big key would be the foot of the cigar. I have never seen plume there, only mold.

icehog3 02-06-2017 09:20 PM

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The white mold won't really hurt you unless it gets inside the foot of the cigar. I'd wipe it off before smoking one of those Padrons though.

T.G 02-07-2017 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 2116199)
The white mold won't really hurt you unless it gets inside the foot of the cigar. I'd wipe it off before smoking one of those Padrons though.

Padrons, and Dirty Rats, and, and, and "many of them".

That many cigars all with different tobaccos from different regions and different ages, all stored at 72 degrees and 72%RH, all magically showing signs of plume is unlikely.

Some tobaccos will never develop plume, others can do it quite quickly.

Padron cigars undergo some unique handling of their capa leaves, something that removes a lot of the oils and sugars that could potentially lead to plume. Just prior to rolling, rather than store them in a high humidity area, or pass them through this area on a conveyor machine, or use a misting system, right at the back of the rolling floor, Padron actually dunks them repeatedly in buckets of water, and then wrings them out like dirty dish rags. That water is black with compounds coming from the tobacco. This is one of the reasons why Padron wrappers have a unique look & sheen to them.

N2Advnture 11-28-2017 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 2116107)
...you could be dealing with old mold, basically happened some time ago, then the humidity issue was corrected, and the colony stopped growing and dried up. Think of a standing dead tree...

This is over looked a lot.

On a personal level (not.a vendor level) adding too much humidity to your humidor can propagate mold for a quick and short period of time.

Good advice

Hippi3Slay3r 03-27-2018 03:25 PM

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I have a noob question about air circulation. I recently purchased a tower humidor from Wally World and for some added circulation I installed two 3in axial muffin fans on a repeat cycle timer running for 15sec every 60mins. My question would be.. I there such thing as to much circulation? Should I run it less or more? The max intervals between fan operation is 60min and the run time can be adjusted to whatever I need. Thank you in advance! :)

For Ref:https://www.cheaphumidors.com/humido...r-humidor.html

CigarNut 03-27-2018 04:11 PM

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As long as the fans are not building a tornado, you are ok. I leave my lans on all the time. Just my :2

icehog3 03-27-2018 04:47 PM

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I agree with Michael, Kyle.

If it was mine, I'd probably set it to run 15 seconds every 15 minutes, for no good reason other than that's what I think would be good. :D


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