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icantbejon 03-20-2012 12:34 PM

Creating my Smoking Lounge!
 
So I convinced the wif that she really needed an at home Smoking Lounge and now I'm moving forward with the project. In it...I'll have my kegerator, which flows with my own (generally) tasty beer, my humidor, a dart board and a flat panel tv. Seems like it could be damn near perfect. Figured I'd share the progress with you guys!

The back half of my garage will be the room I'm using, and here is the beginning of the dividing wall:
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...-45-44_910.jpg

The frame completed
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...-30-26_223.jpg

My buddy Matt giving a helping hand...easily bribed with a few cigars and some beer.
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...-05-42_766.jpg

The outer wall complete
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...-57-58_676.jpg

icantbejon 03-20-2012 12:37 PM

Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge!
 
Getting the insulation in so this can be a 4 season room.
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...-47-16_841.jpg

I'm getting into the action...with my flashy work jeans.
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...-12-23_930.jpg

My neighbor Jake doing his part...more cigars and beers out the window
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...-32-35_497.jpg

Moving right along
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...-12-43_356.jpg

First layer of mudding done...ran out of time this weekend to get the work done.
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...-09-14_152.jpg

irratebass 03-20-2012 12:44 PM

Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge!
 
Looking good, keep it up and keep us updated.

CigarSquid 03-20-2012 01:16 PM

Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge!
 
Looks good. That is awesome. Can't wait to see more.

BigAsh 03-20-2012 02:18 PM

Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge!
 
Mac already invited me to come over when his room is done...Nice of you to do this for him Jon...:D

Looking good!!

STEVE S 03-20-2012 02:47 PM

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Looking good, keep us posted.

tengel78 03-20-2012 04:13 PM

Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge!
 
Looks good so far. I wish I could do something like this.

kelmac07 03-20-2012 04:16 PM

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Looking good Ferg. :tu

mase 03-20-2012 04:35 PM

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Looks good!

jluck 03-20-2012 04:58 PM

Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge!
 
Awesome!

Mark THS 03-20-2012 05:27 PM

Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge!
 
Looks good. Doing anything for ventilation or going au natural?

Ogre 03-20-2012 05:47 PM

Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge!
 
Looking good brother.

cjhalbrooks 03-20-2012 05:52 PM

Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge!
 
I want one

LigaPrivadaT84 03-20-2012 07:16 PM

Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge!
 
:tu:tu

gbum 03-20-2012 08:13 PM

Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge!
 
looking good,lucky bastid
good luck jon! :)

Gooner 03-20-2012 11:12 PM

Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge!
 
Nice! :tu

icantbejon 03-21-2012 07:19 AM

Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark THS (Post 1595520)
Looks good. Doing anything for ventilation or going au natural?

Gonna put in ventilation on the back wall. Still researching the right option. In my head, getting something as simple as a bathroom fan would work in a room this small. I should be able to just pipe that outside and be fine.

Dave128 03-21-2012 08:04 AM

Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge!
 
Awesome idea! No room in the garage, but have been trying to convince my wife to do something similar in the basement.

Taki 03-21-2012 10:59 AM

Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge!
 
Good looking start brother :tu Keep us updated!!!

racerX 03-21-2012 12:10 PM

Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge!
 
Thanks for sharing.

Mark THS 03-21-2012 12:55 PM

Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icantbejon (Post 1595907)
Gonna put in ventilation on the back wall. Still researching the right option. In my head, getting something as simple as a bathroom fan would work in a room this small. I should be able to just pipe that outside and be fine.

if you're in need of any ideas- see what me and my brother did: www.ryandeyer.com/cigarroom

The "Process" section has some nice tips on ducting/venting

irratebass 03-21-2012 02:02 PM

Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark THS (Post 1596151)
if you're in need of any ideas- see what me and my brother did: www.ryandeyer.com/cigarroom

The "Process" section has some nice tips on ducting/venting

Amazing room!!!!! I love the step by step, photos and pricing even great job man....Wish I had the means and know how.

icantbejon 04-02-2012 11:47 AM

Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge!
 
Got the primer coat painted in the room. Now it's time for the exhaust fans. Any recommendations for quiet, powerful and reasonably priced fans is welcome!

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...-37-40_740.jpg

smitty81 04-02-2012 01:23 PM

Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icantbejon (Post 1606378)
Got the primer coat painted in the room. Now it's time for the exhaust fans. Any recommendations for quiet, powerful and reasonably priced fans is welcome!

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...-37-40_740.jpg

you have a window in that room don't you?

I use a walmart box fan in the window and it works rather well. I can sit about 7' from the window and you can see the smoke float towards the window when its on.

Blak Smyth 04-02-2012 01:24 PM

Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge!
 
I was looking into quiet bathroom fans for mine, just a thought.

kaisersozei 04-02-2012 01:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icantbejon (Post 1606378)
Got the primer coat painted in the room. Now it's time for the exhaust fans. Any recommendations for quiet, powerful and reasonably priced fans is welcome!

I was thinking about this since you brought it up on Saturday--where do you want to vent the fan? The problem with a lot of kitchen/bath fans is that they have exhaust tubing which needs to be run somewhere. You have two exterior walls (well, technically 3) so I'm not sure a bath exhaust will do the trick. Basically you'll be cutting a hole directly in an exterior wall. Bath fans usually don't have very good damper systems, so you'll be open to the elements year round.

I'm kinda stumped, maybe a craftier BOTL can offer up better advice.

Blak Smyth 04-02-2012 01:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kaisersozei (Post 1606444)
I was thinking about this since you brought it up on Saturday--where do you want to vent the fan? The problem with a lot of kitchen/bath fans is that they have exhaust tubing which needs to be run somewhere. You have two exterior walls (well, technically 3) so I'm not sure a bath exhaust will do the trick. Basically you'll be cutting a hole directly in an exterior wall. Bath fans usually don't have very good damper systems, so you'll be open to the elements year round.

I'm kinda stumped, maybe a craftier BOTL can offer up better advice.

What about a bathroom exhaust fan with dryer duct and damper?

smitty81 04-02-2012 01:42 PM

Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge!
 
If you don't want to go the box fan rout, you can just put an exhaust fan in the wall that has metal shutters that open and close when you turn the fan on and off. There is a cover that you can put on the outside of the house over the shutters in the winter time.

kaisersozei 04-02-2012 01:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1606447)
What about a bathroom exhaust fan with dryer duct and damper?

The problem is that I don't think Ferg has any room to run the ducting since he's on exterior walls. Could be wrong.

Blak Smyth 04-02-2012 01:49 PM

Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kaisersozei (Post 1606454)
The problem is that I don't think Ferg has any room to run the ducting since he's on exterior walls. Could be wrong.

To bad the portable wall mount scrubbers are so pricey.

lilninjabuddy 04-02-2012 06:01 PM

Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge!
 
I've been looking at these. What about an exterior-mounted fan?

trendo 04-02-2012 10:33 PM

Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icantbejon (Post 1595907)
Gonna put in ventilation on the back wall. Still researching the right option. In my head, getting something as simple as a bathroom fan would work in a room this small. I should be able to just pipe that outside and be fine.

In my oppinon, bathroom fans dont pull the scfm needed. I looked into various ventilation forms for my own room, and ended up making a home made system. I hung a boxed gable fan from the rafters in my attic space, and plumbed it to the room. It pulls something like 1500 cfm, and cost me a total of 100 bucks. And because it is hanging from the rafters, it is virtually silent.:2

icantbejon 04-03-2012 09:10 AM

Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge!
 
Thanks for all the input everyone. I came to the same conclusion Troy...I was going to do a bathroom fan but I don't think it will pull enough. I want at least a 1000 cfm fan. I think I found a fan, or type of fan, that will work well.

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...tbejon/fan.jpg

These are wall mounted, from the inside, and have a cover. It's capacity is 1500 cfm and it seems like it will be relatively quiet. I found a few varieties of these and the only thing this is missing is a speed control. I might look for that. If any one is interested in more research on this fan, here it is: http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/hv...hutter-mounted

icantbejon 04-03-2012 09:11 AM

Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge!
 
Oh, and I currently have a window fan in as well for a short term fix. I only have the one window though, so I don't want to block it. Also, I am going to temp control this room so I don't want to leave a window open during middle of winter.

jluck 04-03-2012 11:23 AM

Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge!
 
I would go with a much higher cfm fan remote mounted as far away from smoking space as possible and run ducting to the room. That would make it easy to have multiple extraction ports for a more consistent air exchange and not dragging all the smoke past one persons head/face going to one common fan. This is how I will do mine.:2

357 04-03-2012 12:15 PM

Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge!
 
Check out MarkTHS's brother's cigar room. http://www.ryandeyer.com/cigarroom He gives step by step pics and parts lists. He includes switch operated baffles for both the inbound and outbound air ducts AND for the internal HVAC ducts so smoke doesn't backdraft into other parts of the house. He also includes an in-duct heating coil for inbound fresh air that auto heats the air if it's under 70 degrees F.

He did all of it on a pretty reasonable budget.

SteelCityBoy 04-03-2012 12:21 PM

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I love seeing stuff like this! Can't wait to see the finished project! Keep us updated! :tu

Don Fernando 04-03-2012 12:25 PM

Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge!
 
guess on my next trip to the US, I have to visit VA

lilninjabuddy 04-03-2012 01:12 PM

Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark THS (Post 1596151)
if you're in need of any ideas- see what me and my brother did: www.ryandeyer.com/cigarroom

The "Process" section has some nice tips on ducting/venting

Your room was the inspiration for my garage room! (Which is still a work in progress, and likely will be for some time!)

Amazing job!

icantbejon 04-03-2012 01:25 PM

Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 357 (Post 1607138)
Check out MarkTHS's brother's cigar room. http://www.ryandeyer.com/cigarroom He gives step by step pics and parts lists. He includes switch operated baffles for both the inbound and outbound air ducts AND for the internal HVAC ducts so smoke doesn't backdraft into other parts of the house. He also includes an in-duct heating coil for inbound fresh air that auto heats the air if it's under 70 degrees F.

He did all of it on a pretty reasonable budget.

Yeah, this room is pretty damn sweet but I'm not operating on this kind of budget. A 1500 cfm fan should be more than enough exhaust my 11 x 14 room.

kaisersozei 04-03-2012 01:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Fernando (Post 1607144)
guess on my next trip to the US, I have to visit VA

Why, yes... yes you do.

Tbagley 04-03-2012 01:44 PM

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Threads like this can provide great motivation, has me thinking of turning a workout room to smoking den! Workouts can be had out in the garage.

Blak Smyth 04-03-2012 01:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tbagley (Post 1607236)
Threads like this can provide great motivation, has me thinking of turning a workout room to smoking den! Workouts can be had out in the garage.

I like your attitude! :tu

trendo 04-03-2012 04:50 PM

Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icantbejon (Post 1606999)
Thanks for all the input everyone. I came to the same conclusion Troy...I was going to do a bathroom fan but I don't think it will pull enough. I want at least a 1000 cfm fan. I think I found a fan, or type of fan, that will work well.

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...tbejon/fan.jpg

These are wall mounted, from the inside, and have a cover. It's capacity is 1500 cfm and it seems like it will be relatively quiet. I found a few varieties of these and the only thing this is missing is a speed control. I might look for that. If any one is interested in more research on this fan, here it is: http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/hv...hutter-mounted

:tu

Looks like that will pull plenty of air. If you can find a way to isolate the fan from its mounting points with rubber, you can probably keep the sound to a minimum. Another way you can control noise is to put a fan dimmer on it, you may not need that thing on high.

Good luck with your room, be sure to let us know how that fan works out for you!

trendo 04-03-2012 04:57 PM

Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark THS (Post 1596151)
if you're in need of any ideas- see what me and my brother did: www.ryandeyer.com/cigarroom

The "Process" section has some nice tips on ducting/venting

I spent a lot of time on that website when trying to design my room. Thanks for taking the time to make all that information available:banger

Ncpsycho 04-03-2012 06:24 PM

Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge!
 
I want something like this for my workshop for cigar smoke but its 14'x20' i think i would need something much larger

icantbejon 04-04-2012 08:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ncpsycho (Post 1607425)
I want something like this for my workshop for cigar smoke but its 14'x20' i think i would need something much larger

They have much larger fans, but my room is small enough for the 10". They have up to 16" fans that pull damn 3000 cfm.

357 04-05-2012 11:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by trendo (Post 1607367)
I spent a lot of time on that website when trying to design my room. Thanks for taking the time to make all that information available:banger

Mark's brother used an adjustable 1200 cfm fan. He said they never turned it above 50%, even with 3 guys smoking in there. I forget the dimensions of his room but it would be a good guide.

The most important thing I've read for reducing noise it putting the fan as far from the room as possible, having it pull the air through the duct and push it outside.

RichieBklyn 04-05-2012 11:12 AM

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Wow, what a greeeeeat idea!

icantbejon 04-07-2012 10:14 AM

Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trendo (Post 1607361)
:tu

Looks like that will pull plenty of air. If you can find a way to isolate the fan from its mounting points with rubber, you can probably keep the sound to a minimum. Another way you can control noise is to put a fan dimmer on it, you may not need that thing on high.

Good luck with your room, be sure to let us know how that fan works out for you!

I plan on getting a dimmer switch as well. I don't imagine I'll need this thing on full blast very often. What kind of rubber at the mounting points? Rubber washers or something else?


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