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Darrell 11-08-2009 03:59 PM

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I just bottled my American Brown Ale. Next week a nice Stout will be started. :dr

JohnnyKay5 11-08-2009 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Darrell (Post 636995)
I just bottled my American Brown Ale. Next week a nice Stout will be started. :dr

excellent choices

JohnnyKay5 11-08-2009 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kaisersozei (Post 614247)
Good luck with that! One of the things I found out with my first coffee porter is that coffee has a detrimental impact on head retention--I think it's something about the oils. If you're bottling, you might want to prime with a bit extra sugar. Mine took about 6 months longer to mature as well, but once it did--:banger I used Starbucks Sulawesi. Great stuff--in fact, I still have a few bottles from my very first batch of it... more than 12 years old!

:dr

kenstogie 11-11-2009 06:04 PM

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Kits get delivered tomorrow. :)

After brewing my own, I find it hard to drink off the shelf stuff.

Is this wrong?

BeerAdvocate 11-12-2009 06:59 AM

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2 kits from Northern Brewer:

Phat Tyre
Patersbier

kenstogie 11-12-2009 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BeerAdvocate (Post 641839)
2 kits from Northern Brewer:

Phat Tyre
Patersbier

I was checking their site and notice they mention using white ordinary table sugar for priming. Is this recommended? I kind of like the idea as it's cheap and readily available. Although I would probably not be inclined to use it, What about using DME?


Here's a link on the subject but doesn't really say if there are any downsides to them.

http://www.howtobrew.com/section1/chapter11-4.html

Also heres a chart I found on the matter also.

Scimmia 11-12-2009 09:57 AM

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The only downside to using table sugar is that sucrose is a disaccharide of fructose and glucose that the yeast has to break apart, then convert the fructose into glucose before it can metabolize it. That's why most people use corn sugar, being pure glucose it can be metabolized without any extra work. You can use DME, but it takes more of it since it's less fermentable, as well as being more expensive to start with.

kenstogie 11-12-2009 10:14 AM

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Am I understanding this the only down side is time? No flavor difference?

Scimmia 11-12-2009 12:00 PM

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Since you're working the yeast a bit harder, there's a potential for there to be a flavor difference, but since we're only talking about a few ounces for priming, you'll never taste it. Using DME could certainly change the flavor since you're adding unfermentables as well. There are people that claim DME gives them "finer" carbonation, as in smaller bubbles, but there's nothing to back that up, and many others that tried it and claim no difference.

kenstogie 11-12-2009 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Scimmia (Post 642170)
Since you're working the yeast a bit harder, there's a potential for there to be a flavor difference, but since we're only talking about a few ounces for priming, you'll never taste it. Using DME could certainly change the flavor since you're adding unfermentables as well. There are people that claim DME gives them "finer" carbonation, as in smaller bubbles, but there's nothing to back that up, and many others that tried it and claim no difference.

THanks for the INFO BRO!!

Scimmia 11-12-2009 02:57 PM

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Any time. Just make sure you use the correct calculation for whatever type of sugar you end up using!

kenstogie 11-12-2009 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Scimmia (Post 642401)
Any time. Just make sure you use the correct calculation for whatever type of sugar you end up using!

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Scimmia 11-12-2009 06:31 PM

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It could be worse than that, glass bottles tend to explode if overcarbed too much. That would take quite a bit, but it's happened over and over again.

kenstogie 11-12-2009 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Scimmia (Post 642696)
It could be worse than that, glass bottles tend to explode if overcarbed too much. That would take quite a bit, but it's happened over and over again.

I never had a bottle explode (thankfully). I assumed that the caps would blow off. The actual glass blow apart?

Scimmia 11-12-2009 08:24 PM

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Yep, they generally call them "bottle bombs". It's usually from bottling before fermentation is done, but way too much priming sugar could do the same thing.

Darrell 11-12-2009 08:31 PM

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Is Northern Brewer a pretty good site to order from?

Also, what are "prime" conditions for aging beer?

cherrybomb 11-12-2009 08:37 PM

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darrell pretty much the same conditions for wine; cellar temperature 55- 60 degrees and try to keep the temperature as constant as you can

Darrell 11-12-2009 08:38 PM

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Is beer even worth aging?

Scimmia 11-12-2009 08:41 PM

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And yes, Northern Brewer is a good site, but being in Cali, I would suggest MoreBeer.com. In fact, they have a retail outlet pretty close to you from the looks of it.

Scimmia 11-12-2009 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Darrell (Post 642851)
Is beer even worth aging?

Depends on the beer. Generally beers like barleywines and imperial stouts age well, while hoppy or ligher beers don't.


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