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BamBam 03-03-2012 07:37 AM

Need help, Is this GBD New Standard Pre-Comoy's Merger or not?
 
Hello Gents,

I have an individual challenging one of my pipes for sale on ebay, and I wanted to reach out to your knowledge.

Here is my listing:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MESE:IT

The individual is another seller of pipes, and seems to do post some nice pipes, so I assume he knows what he speaks of. However all the research I have done on GBD pipes points to my pipe being pre-comoy's merger.

He claims my pipe is not pre-merger, saying: "GBD and Comoy merged in 1960 when production of both companies was moved into the Homerton Plant by Jacques Cole. The GBD New Standard was introduced in the 1970s."

My information tyells me that the GBD Comoy's merger occurred around 1981. Also, pre-merger pipes had the "LONDON ENGLAND" in a horizontal stamp (like mine) where as post-merger pipes had the stamp in a circular fashion. Also, the metal rondelle was discontinued and the "GBD" was painted on the stem after the merger, mine has the GBD rondelle.

My info has come from various sources, but the majority came from pipedia here: http://pipedia.org/index.php?title=GBD

I know we have some of the greatest minds for pipes on here.

So, is there something that I don't know about here?

BamBam 03-03-2012 09:37 AM

Re: Need help, Is this GBD New Standard Pre-Comoy's Merger or not?
 
Just for information purpose, I have found the followoing. Consistent with the claims made in the message, I found that GBD and Comoy's came under one roof in the early 1960's. They were made at the Homerton factory ran by Jacques Cole. So I guess one could argue that this was a "merger" of the two lines.

I updated my listing to reflect this fact.

DMK 03-03-2012 11:41 AM

Re: Need help, Is this GBD New Standard Pre-Comoy's Merger or not?
 
Nice pipe !:tu
Any idea what shipping to Canada would be....

sam a 03-05-2012 11:31 PM

Re: Need help, Is this GBD New Standard Pre-Comoy's Merger or not?
 
i collect pre-cadogan era GBDs, and to my knowledge your info is correct. the merger took place around 1981 and a metal roundelle on the stem dates to before the merger.


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