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Malazan 03-06-2012 08:35 PM

Hookah
 
Anyone smoke tobacco from a hookah pipe? My wife was looking at one. Thought about picking it up for her birthday. She likes the flavored tobaccos, and we were just wondering how a hookah smoked.

Thanks

Emjaysmash 03-06-2012 08:43 PM

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Hookah smokes very cool. I know some people who put milk in the base instead of water to make the smoke "creamier".

darkleeroy 03-06-2012 08:49 PM

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It's almost like a vapor. You'd have to inhale it to get any sort of drag.

justonemorestick 03-07-2012 12:06 AM

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Check out a local hooka bar and give it a try they seem to be real popular especially around colleges.

emopunker2004 03-07-2012 12:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Emjaysmash (Post 1583940)
Hookah smokes very cool. I know some people who put milk in the base instead of water to make the smoke "creamier".

This.
I have a small hookah. The hookah bars around here do offer milk instead of water for a creamier feel/taste like MJ said. Better than infused cigars because it doesn't smell like perfume. :2

Dunkel 03-07-2012 04:29 AM

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If you want to try to use milk in your hookah be sure to use a little milk and mostly water. Milk alone will bubble up and get in your hookah hose. Unless your hookah hose is washable you'll have to throw it away. It's best to use very cold water or water with a few ice cubes added.

Mister Moo 03-07-2012 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by justonemorestick (Post 1584058)
Check out a local hooka bar and give it a try...

+1 if possible.

Entirely different experience from a pipe. More a flavored vapor than hard particulate smoke, it needs a deep inhale to get to the heart of the deal. Not a bad thing, just not like a pipe. You also need foil, special hookah tobacco, charcoal and, ideally, a blowtorch and a good baby-bottle brush sooner or later to clean the stinky thing out.

For the once or twice a year I get a hookah jones I go the the middle eastern bar, have a shish-kabab, some rice pilaf, let the pretty lady from Lebanon pour the turkish coffee and, then, she brings a clean shisha and fires it up for me. I prefer this method to actual ownership and maintenance. :tu

ucubed 03-16-2012 06:19 PM

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I do enjoy smoking hookah from time to time. Usually our sessions are a few hours long and it's quite relaxing in the social setting. (This is what I'm told) Starbuzz brand tobacco is more for the "American" market for it's much "sweeter" while Al Fakher is more "authentic". I enjoy Al Fakher most of the time, but starbuzz blue mist I enjoy quite a bit. ACID of Drew Estate makes a shisha in collaboration with Starbuzz if you can find that. I usually mix flavors, typically mint with another fruit flavor. My favorite right now is mixing 1 part mint and 2 parts orange which reminds of of Orange Soda.

Going back to the original question, the smoke it'self feels cleaner through the water, and cooler (depending if you add ice). It's much denser and thicker so practicing your O-Rings is quite easy. The smell lingers only for a little while, we've smoked it the house and the smell will dissipate quite quickly. The buzz you get is much different from a cigar/cigarette buzz (at least to me) and I feel much more relaxed, but that's probably due to the amount I'm smoking and the lightheadedness that might follow from inhaling so much. I find it much less harsh to my throat if you smoke in a "normal length session". If you need any help don't shy to pm!

oooo35980 03-16-2012 06:50 PM

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I love hookah, it was one of the first things I started smoking, oddly enough my first time smoking it I actually smoked some sort of sugar syrup and tea leaf mixture that the head shop sold as shishah, apparently they don't sell tobacco...

CRIMPS 06-26-2012 04:41 PM

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Just saw this. I used to smoke my hookah at lunch and then in the evening. Now... it sits in the case :( I need to break it out.

Yeah, there are a lot of great things you can do as far as mixes, adding different liquids (milk, rum, etc.) to really trick it up. For me? My standby was mixing strawberry and apple together... strapple ;)

I would also recommend you play with the coals. Too much coal and and it can get really harsh. Too little and you wont get enough smoke. Also, there are different types of coal. I think I currently use lemonwood coal and absolutely love it. My wife loves it, too. She says it makes the house smell good. Lemonwood coals usually aren't autostart. So, you have to put constant heat/flame to them. I would just throw a couple of pieces of coal on the burner and get them started. Now, I use the burner on the side of my grill.

Ok, enough... I am rambling.

TheatyHannington 07-20-2012 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CRIMPS (Post 1667389)
I would also recommend you play with the coals. Too much coal and and it can get really harsh. Too little and you wont get enough smoke. Also, there are different types of coal. I think I currently use lemonwood coal and absolutely love it. My wife loves it, too. She says it makes the house smell good. Lemonwood coals usually aren't autostart. So, you have to put constant heat/flame to them. I would just throw a couple of pieces of coal on the burner and get them started. Now, I use the burner on the side of my grill.

Agreed. Another trick we do is using a cored apple as our bowl on top if we're using apple flavors. Pairs really well with a cinnamon rich masala chai and a touch of milk or bailey's mixed in with the water.

mosesbotbol 07-20-2012 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TheatyHannington (Post 1684473)
Agreed. Another trick we do is using a cored apple as our bowl on top if we're using apple flavors. Pairs really well with a cinnamon rich masala chai and a touch of milk or bailey's mixed in with the water.

That's a good one.

Al Fakher is my favorite brand tobacco. Make sure the coal is the right size for the bowl or it will get too hot.

http://www.alfakher.com/

Whipper Snapper 07-20-2012 09:13 PM

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I used to smoke too much of this stuff.
Nakhla, Nakhla mizo, al fakher, and tangiers are my top choices in tobacco.
All have there good and bad flavors.

Invest in high quality coals, different bowls (a clay and phunnel), and learn how to pack each tobacco.

That is all.

Oh, and on a side note. Khalil mamoon hookahs are the best in the biz. Their hoses are great too. Either that or a nammor or narbish.

MajorCaptSilly 07-23-2012 08:03 PM

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Bought me a hookah because of this thread. You guys are dangerous!

MCS

CRIMPS 07-24-2012 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MajorCaptSilly (Post 1686232)
Bought me a hookah because of this thread. You guys are dangerous!

MCS

Hope you enjoy it.

Sumatra Samurai 07-24-2012 02:09 PM

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I have a small 2-hose hookah, it's hard to find a good one, they're either extremely expensive or really cheap. We used beer instead of water once, it just burns a little more...

ApexAZ 07-24-2012 02:11 PM

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How does a hooka bar work? How do they sterilize them, or do you bring your own? I don't know that I'd want to use a public hookah.

Whipper Snapper 07-24-2012 02:19 PM

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Sterilize is probably the wrong term to think of. Generally, using a hard alcohol like vodka is used to clean the bowl/stem. Hoses can't be sterilized persay (unless said bar has a washable hose). This is why hookah bars use plastic tips to cover mouth piece of the hose to prevent your lips touching someone elses.

Word to the wise- if your hose doesn't explicitly say it's washable, that means if you run water through it- the innards of the hose will rust and decay. You don't want that happening.

area51 07-24-2012 03:01 PM

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Hookahs are amazing use ice water or as others have said milk.

CRIMPS 07-24-2012 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tecnorobo (Post 1686685)
Sterilize is probably the wrong term to think of. Generally, using a hard alcohol like vodka is used to clean the bowl/stem. Hoses can't be sterilized persay (unless said bar has a washable hose). This is why hookah bars use plastic tips to cover mouth piece of the hose to prevent your lips touching someone elses.

Word to the wise- if your hose doesn't explicitly say it's washable, that means if you run water through it- the innards of the hose will rust and decay. You don't want that happening.

I run water through my hoses from time to time. Cleans out much of the grit and grime. I haven't had any issues with it. They are just rubber hoses usually. Right?

Dunkel 07-24-2012 05:45 PM

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It depends. Some hoses are not washable. They have metal coils in them that rust, both from condensation or washing. If you're not sure your hose is washable, it probably isn't.

Whipper Snapper 07-24-2012 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CRIMPS (Post 1686700)
I run water through my hoses from time to time. Cleans out much of the grit and grime. I haven't had any issues with it. They are just rubber hoses usually. Right?

Unless explicitly stated. Generally, the hoses that are wrapped with a fabric are not rubber. Hoses that look like, well, a rubber hose are obviously rubber.

Whipper Snapper 07-24-2012 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunkel (Post 1686809)
It depends. Some hoses are not washable. They have metal coils in them that rust, both from condensation or washing. If you're not sure your hose is washable, it probably isn't.

welp. beat me to it :r

hotreds 10-06-2013 05:27 PM

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Just started smoking the hookah and am enjoying it. Very different from cigars and pipes. BUT, I still will not inhale- altho it is a great way to practice snorking! So, how are the other hookah smokers enjoying theirs? Still using? How often?

mosesbotbol 10-07-2013 10:49 AM

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Hookah has more nicotine than a cigar in my experience. After an hour of a Hookah, when I stand it's like "oh man".

RobR1205 10-07-2013 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 1888664)
Hookah has more nicotine than a cigar in my experience. After an hour of a Hookah, when I stand it's like "oh man".

This. Might have something to do with the fact that I usually drink with hookah.... But even after a couple of drags, I can feel the lightheadedness come on. Even two or three cigars in a row doesn't do that to me anymore.

hotreds 10-07-2013 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 1888664)
Hookah has more nicotine than a cigar in my experience. After an hour of a Hookah, when I stand it's like "oh man".

Not according to the labels! Although I guess it also depends on the sheesha, but the two I've tried show less than 1% nicotine content.

the nub 10-07-2013 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 1888664)
Hookah has more nicotine than a cigar in my experience. After an hour of a Hookah, when I stand it's like "oh man".

the amount that you intake can be more but I think that has more to do with how often you deeply inhale. If you smoked a cigar like you do hookah, I'm sure you'd be on your ass after the first few puffs. I've found the best way to counteract the lightheadedness is to drink plenty of fluids during a session.

stearns 10-07-2013 01:29 PM

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It's my understanding that hookah is more of a vaporization than combustion (the heat source never directly touches the tobacco, hence the foil or metal screen and air buffer between the charcoal and shisha). once the shisha starts to actually burn, it's time to empty the bowl. therefore, it's dificult to compare the two, as obviously cigars require combustion. it would be more appropriate to compare it to an e-cig, which again is difficult, but at least then you're comparing granny smiths to macintosh's. just this one fool's thoughts :2

hotreds 10-07-2013 02:00 PM

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Yes, you "bake" the hooka tobacco.

mosesbotbol 10-08-2013 11:20 AM

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Hookah is a less expensive alternate than handing out 4-5 cigars to friends after dinner.


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